1 00:00:05,090 --> 00:00:02,930 praise be higher side Chatters it has 2 00:00:07,130 --> 00:00:05,100 been some time since I jumped in here 3 00:00:09,290 --> 00:00:07,140 before starting the show to give you any 4 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:09,300 sort of information but I feel like it's 5 00:00:13,610 --> 00:00:11,519 worth saying right at the top that we 6 00:00:17,210 --> 00:00:13,620 have one of those rare situations where 7 00:00:19,430 --> 00:00:17,220 our guest sells products in this case to 8 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:19,440 Vortex and optimize your water quality 9 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:22,199 and he was kind enough to give us a THC 10 00:00:26,870 --> 00:00:24,240 discount code for anything in this store 11 00:00:29,810 --> 00:00:26,880 we didn't decide on that until after the 12 00:00:31,730 --> 00:00:29,820 interview so yes I can tell you about it 13 00:00:34,130 --> 00:00:31,740 in the wrap-up but I also wanted you to 14 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:34,140 know about it right at the top use the 15 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:34,880 code 16 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:39,000 thc-10 for 10 off any orders under 1500 17 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,719 and use the code thc-20 for any orders 18 00:00:47,150 --> 00:00:44,640 that are over fifteen hundred dollars 19 00:00:48,830 --> 00:00:47,160 and these are serious prices I 20 00:00:51,170 --> 00:00:48,840 understand that's not really my 21 00:00:53,330 --> 00:00:51,180 department I just happen to have had 22 00:00:56,270 --> 00:00:53,340 John's work presented to me and thought 23 00:00:58,430 --> 00:00:56,280 he had a profound and esoteric even 24 00:00:59,810 --> 00:00:58,440 understanding of water that lines up 25 00:01:03,110 --> 00:00:59,820 with what a lot of our guests have 26 00:01:06,170 --> 00:01:03,120 circled our round and so I do what I do 27 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:06,180 and present him to the crew 28 00:01:10,190 --> 00:01:07,860 but here I'm out and see what you think 29 00:01:12,590 --> 00:01:10,200 he has products for pretty much anywhere 30 00:01:14,929 --> 00:01:12,600 that water comes into your house whole 31 00:01:17,570 --> 00:01:14,939 home systems under the sink systems 32 00:01:20,570 --> 00:01:17,580 vortexing shower heads and a portable 33 00:01:22,850 --> 00:01:20,580 pour through slash pitcher product 34 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:22,860 I was going to get myself the pitcher 35 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:24,840 and test it out before releasing this 36 00:01:30,109 --> 00:01:27,479 one but whatever the show is ready so 37 00:01:32,330 --> 00:01:30,119 why make you wait I'll talk about my 38 00:01:34,850 --> 00:01:32,340 experience some other time 39 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:34,860 so I don't mean to stall the action you 40 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:36,840 can also find the coupon codes in the 41 00:01:40,969 --> 00:01:39,000 show notes but keep it in mind as you 42 00:01:43,249 --> 00:01:40,979 listen and if you like what you hear why 43 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:43,259 not get a little discount but either way 44 00:01:46,969 --> 00:01:45,240 the magic of water is a really 45 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:46,979 interesting topic to me and I've been 46 00:01:52,490 --> 00:01:50,159 looking for an Avenue to take it from 47 00:01:54,109 --> 00:01:52,500 just some intellectual exercise to 48 00:01:56,270 --> 00:01:54,119 something practical 49 00:01:58,969 --> 00:01:56,280 and maybe this is it we shall see but 50 00:02:11,869 --> 00:01:58,979 John is just a great guest to talk to 51 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,650 yes known as the Fireside Chats his aim 52 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:17,520 was to reassure the common man that our 53 00:02:22,369 --> 00:02:19,440 society would recover from its troubled 54 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:22,379 times well we're far from 1930 and I 55 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:24,780 deal with a different kind of fire for a 56 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:27,360 new era of worldly frustration we offer 57 00:02:34,309 --> 00:02:30,420 a fresh conversation I'm Greg carlwood 58 00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:34,319 and these are the higher side chats 59 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:36,660 woosa Higher Side Chatters from Sunny 60 00:02:40,970 --> 00:02:39,360 San Diego I'm Greg carlwood and when we 61 00:02:43,009 --> 00:02:40,980 think deeply about the state of our 62 00:02:45,710 --> 00:02:43,019 society it seems like we barely even 63 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:45,720 qualify as advanced let alone number one 64 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:48,660 sure many of our processes are complex 65 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:50,700 but do we really need to ship cheap 66 00:02:55,369 --> 00:02:52,680 plastic Goods all the way from China to 67 00:02:57,770 --> 00:02:55,379 the local Walmart do we need disgusting 68 00:03:00,170 --> 00:02:57,780 factory farms stinking up everything for 69 00:03:01,850 --> 00:03:00,180 Miles processing animals that are barely 70 00:03:04,670 --> 00:03:01,860 propped up with another round of shots 71 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:04,680 and antibiotics is it right to have a 72 00:03:08,089 --> 00:03:06,540 laundry list of strange and concerning 73 00:03:10,670 --> 00:03:08,099 side effects for the latest greatest 74 00:03:12,890 --> 00:03:10,680 petrochemical pill and should we really 75 00:03:14,690 --> 00:03:12,900 dismiss the less conventional interests 76 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:14,700 of History's brightest Minds like 77 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:16,800 Alchemy as just something they got into 78 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:19,260 as they were going crazy in old age 79 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:21,120 really it seems like we've been 80 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:23,280 corralled into complex systems because 81 00:03:27,649 --> 00:03:25,500 they're easy to monopolize and hard for 82 00:03:29,809 --> 00:03:27,659 others outside the robber baron class to 83 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:29,819 duplicate not because they're the best 84 00:03:34,610 --> 00:03:32,640 or anything close to optimized but some 85 00:03:36,350 --> 00:03:34,620 outside the box thinkers have looked 86 00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:36,360 deeper at nature and realize that we 87 00:03:40,670 --> 00:03:38,099 should have never been so quick to claim 88 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:40,680 superiority when we've barely scratched 89 00:03:44,509 --> 00:03:42,720 the surface of the insights it gives us 90 00:03:47,449 --> 00:03:44,519 and the ways we could harness it best 91 00:03:49,309 --> 00:03:47,459 for Health Energy and abundance well one 92 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:49,319 of the main gifts nature gives us is 93 00:03:53,210 --> 00:03:51,599 water and the latest in water science is 94 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:53,220 some mind-blowing stuff with a wide 95 00:03:57,649 --> 00:03:55,260 range of applications that could improve 96 00:03:59,330 --> 00:03:57,659 pretty much everything and with us here 97 00:04:02,030 --> 00:03:59,340 today to talk about such things as 98 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:02,040 Jonathan butts the CEO of natural action 99 00:04:06,589 --> 00:04:04,620 Technologies John was educated in 100 00:04:08,570 --> 00:04:06,599 nuclear power while in the Navy and had 101 00:04:10,429 --> 00:04:08,580 a few early experiences that tipped him 102 00:04:12,470 --> 00:04:10,439 off to there being a lot of unexplored 103 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:12,480 depth to water and he applied his 104 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:14,220 engineering skills and Research into 105 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:16,079 some of the best water revitalization 106 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:18,540 products money can buy so let's get into 107 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:21,600 it the the H2O engineer fluid mechanics 108 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:23,940 Maestro and living liquid life force 109 00:04:27,290 --> 00:04:26,220 technology teacher John welcome to the 110 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:27,300 higher side 111 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:30,479 wow that's a mouthful glad to be here 112 00:04:34,249 --> 00:04:32,400 yeah man thanks for taking the time this 113 00:04:36,290 --> 00:04:34,259 is going to be great water is one of 114 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:36,300 those side subjects that we keep coming 115 00:04:41,390 --> 00:04:39,600 back to because as I'm finding out we 116 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:41,400 have a lot more to understand about it 117 00:04:46,850 --> 00:04:44,460 and what it can do it seems that those 118 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:46,860 who tried to teach us about this in the 119 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:49,440 past were sort of marginalized but now 120 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:51,600 we have access to more information and 121 00:04:56,210 --> 00:04:53,280 there's a lot of renewed interest in 122 00:04:58,670 --> 00:04:56,220 water as more of us are wising up to the 123 00:05:01,310 --> 00:04:58,680 importance of it and the sad state of 124 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:01,320 our water quality today but it seems 125 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:02,880 like there were a few different points 126 00:05:07,610 --> 00:05:05,160 in your life where you got an indication 127 00:05:08,930 --> 00:05:07,620 that there was more depth and mystery to 128 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:08,940 the substance than we're typically 129 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:12,720 taught is that right uh 100 I think it 130 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:14,400 kind of rolled around in the background 131 00:05:19,430 --> 00:05:16,560 until that moment 132 00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:19,440 and I think that moment was very clear 133 00:05:25,249 --> 00:05:22,440 for me where it was like okay there's 134 00:05:28,189 --> 00:05:25,259 definitely 100 percent like a deeper 135 00:05:30,409 --> 00:05:28,199 mystery and without a shadow of a doubt 136 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:30,419 an unveiling of 137 00:05:35,870 --> 00:05:32,820 I would say a being kind of like a 138 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:35,880 spirit the spirit of water came forward 139 00:05:40,430 --> 00:05:37,560 and 140 00:05:42,650 --> 00:05:40,440 change the polarity of the mystery you 141 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:42,660 know of of approaching it 142 00:05:49,129 --> 00:05:46,320 as a mysterious thing that only I kind 143 00:05:52,430 --> 00:05:49,139 of was looking at and I would say that 144 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:52,440 you know had to do with in retrograde 145 00:05:58,330 --> 00:05:55,080 looking back on where I grew up how I 146 00:06:01,129 --> 00:05:58,340 grew up my Tendencies to be around water 147 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:01,139 and I would say that was you know more 148 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:03,240 it had to do with like fishing 149 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:06,120 you know fishing in my attraction to 150 00:06:09,950 --> 00:06:08,340 fishing from a very very young age like 151 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:09,960 drew me to water 152 00:06:15,650 --> 00:06:12,300 and I thought it was about the fish and 153 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:15,660 catching fish but as I got older and 154 00:06:20,029 --> 00:06:17,580 when that moment happened I knew it was 155 00:06:21,950 --> 00:06:20,039 about like observing water and being 156 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:21,960 intimate with water like being on the 157 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:25,020 water in the water trying to figure out 158 00:06:32,090 --> 00:06:28,560 how water creatures behaved it was more 159 00:06:33,650 --> 00:06:32,100 about learning about water so it came 160 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:33,660 full circle at a certain point in my 161 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:34,319 life 162 00:06:38,749 --> 00:06:36,720 right on the spirit of water I like that 163 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:38,759 and I hope we get back to using that 164 00:06:43,370 --> 00:06:41,100 kind of language in our society because 165 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:43,380 indigenous folks for a long time have 166 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:46,080 talked about the spirit of various 167 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:49,199 plants and the rivers and lakes and I 168 00:06:54,050 --> 00:06:51,600 just think it's even if it maybe not 169 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,060 technically true and it may be it's 170 00:06:58,969 --> 00:06:56,400 still a type of language that gets us 171 00:07:01,249 --> 00:06:58,979 thinking in respectful terms rather than 172 00:07:04,249 --> 00:07:01,259 domination terms so it's good either way 173 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:04,259 you slice it and what was that real 174 00:07:08,029 --> 00:07:05,759 turning point for you I've heard you 175 00:07:09,650 --> 00:07:08,039 mention a few things was this drinking 176 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:09,660 the mountain spring water at one 177 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:11,880 particular time which was an aha moment 178 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:14,819 oh that definitely happened too okay so 179 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:17,039 if we start there that's gonna be about 180 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:19,440 seven years before the like 181 00:07:25,249 --> 00:07:23,759 aha moment where it was like not so much 182 00:07:28,270 --> 00:07:25,259 my 183 00:07:30,770 --> 00:07:28,280 little eccentric relationship with water 184 00:07:33,170 --> 00:07:30,780 and so 185 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:33,180 after I got out of the service 186 00:07:38,089 --> 00:07:36,300 I was in heavy industry and I felt like 187 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:38,099 I was missing you know deeper lessons 188 00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:41,220 from nature so my goal was is just to go 189 00:07:47,089 --> 00:07:43,800 out nature as far away from civilization 190 00:07:49,490 --> 00:07:47,099 as possible and I guess I really don't 191 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:49,500 know why there was just a desire within 192 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:50,880 me to go 193 00:07:55,610 --> 00:07:53,160 you know go where nobody's really 194 00:07:58,969 --> 00:07:55,620 contaminated or mess this up and get a 195 00:08:02,029 --> 00:07:58,979 clear perspective of what the Earth as a 196 00:08:05,330 --> 00:08:02,039 whole is like without 197 00:08:08,210 --> 00:08:05,340 infiltration from invention and 198 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:08,220 more like a hardcore like technology 199 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:10,800 right like Iron and Steel I grew up in 200 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:14,220 an iron steel family business a big 201 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:15,300 industry 202 00:08:20,270 --> 00:08:17,880 and kind of kept down that road and on 203 00:08:22,490 --> 00:08:20,280 the side I was fishing and getting on 204 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:22,500 water as much as possible 205 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:24,000 so 206 00:08:30,170 --> 00:08:27,360 at one point I'm in Montana 207 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:30,180 and I'm on Horseback with a group of 208 00:08:33,250 --> 00:08:31,919 people kind of going through Wilderness 209 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,260 training 210 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:36,240 and seeing what that's going to be like 211 00:08:39,829 --> 00:08:37,860 for a career you know I'm going to leave 212 00:08:43,209 --> 00:08:39,839 industry I'm going to go live in the 213 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:43,219 mountains and disconnect from normal 214 00:08:49,610 --> 00:08:46,080 civilization that was my goal 215 00:08:51,610 --> 00:08:49,620 and it was extremely hot probably 216 00:08:54,290 --> 00:08:51,620 pushing High 90s 217 00:08:56,110 --> 00:08:54,300 altitude 8 218 00:08:59,449 --> 00:08:56,120 000 feet ish 219 00:09:00,829 --> 00:08:59,459 and I was out of water for sure at this 220 00:09:03,949 --> 00:09:00,839 point 221 00:09:06,650 --> 00:09:03,959 the horse was drenched in sweat from top 222 00:09:10,009 --> 00:09:06,660 to bottom and I remember cutting across 223 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:10,019 a logged like clear-cut 224 00:09:14,509 --> 00:09:12,240 the Packer who was teaching us how to 225 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:14,519 work on Horseback and work deeper in the 226 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:17,040 mountains was like Hey we're we're all 227 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:18,959 out of water it's hot we're gonna take a 228 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:21,000 shortcut to get to the spring 229 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:22,800 and so I remember you know riding the 230 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,320 horse up a steep hill across a clear cut 231 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:27,360 where they had logged 232 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:30,300 crossing over into Wilderness Area it 233 00:09:33,290 --> 00:09:32,040 was kind of on the bubble of where 234 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:33,300 you're allowed to do that stuff and 235 00:09:36,769 --> 00:09:34,680 where you're not 236 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:36,779 and we got through it and it was like I 237 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:39,600 remember hitting the clear cut and it 238 00:09:44,449 --> 00:09:42,000 was just like oh my God like 95 degrees 239 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:44,459 just turned into like 120 it felt like 240 00:09:49,610 --> 00:09:46,800 you were in a desert in the mountains 241 00:09:51,710 --> 00:09:49,620 and then we cleared the clear cot and 242 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:51,720 then all of a sudden this energy shift 243 00:09:55,730 --> 00:09:54,480 occurred the horse started behaving 244 00:09:58,070 --> 00:09:55,740 different 245 00:10:00,769 --> 00:09:58,080 I'm like we must be getting close to the 246 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:00,779 spring you know it's a spring kind of 247 00:10:07,009 --> 00:10:04,080 small stream up there at high altitude 248 00:10:08,570 --> 00:10:07,019 and I remember at one point sensing and 249 00:10:11,570 --> 00:10:08,580 I could tell the horse knew it too that 250 00:10:13,790 --> 00:10:11,580 water was nearby and then over a little 251 00:10:16,570 --> 00:10:13,800 Crest you could see you know the 252 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:16,580 different foliage surrounding the stream 253 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:18,959 and I just jumped off the horse and 254 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:21,300 noticed the horse didn't even hesitate 255 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:23,100 when I got off and turned and started 256 00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:24,600 following me so I wasn't even leading 257 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:26,040 this horse anymore 258 00:10:30,230 --> 00:10:28,140 and I wasn't afraid that this horse was 259 00:10:32,449 --> 00:10:30,240 going to run away off the lead 260 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,459 and I knew the horse knew the water was 261 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:34,800 there so we both walk over he's just 262 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:36,360 dragging his lead 263 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:38,940 right next to me like yeah buddy you 264 00:10:43,850 --> 00:10:41,040 could horses if you know them they kind 265 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:43,860 of give off an excitement that makes a 266 00:10:50,030 --> 00:10:46,560 human being like get very trustworthy 267 00:10:51,290 --> 00:10:50,040 and when they get like off balance you 268 00:10:53,389 --> 00:10:51,300 can feel it right away when they're 269 00:10:56,509 --> 00:10:53,399 about to Buck you off and that's kind of 270 00:11:00,110 --> 00:10:56,519 part of learning horses 271 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:00,120 at any rate we end up at the spring 272 00:11:05,389 --> 00:11:03,000 and I remember this like the energy of 273 00:11:07,730 --> 00:11:05,399 the horse and its eyeball I looked over 274 00:11:08,870 --> 00:11:07,740 at the horse and it's eyeball as we were 275 00:11:11,810 --> 00:11:08,880 drinking 276 00:11:14,329 --> 00:11:11,820 was like sending me a message of like oh 277 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,339 you don't know about real water and at 278 00:11:19,069 --> 00:11:16,079 the same time the water was hitting my 279 00:11:20,810 --> 00:11:19,079 mouth out of the palms of my hand and I 280 00:11:22,970 --> 00:11:20,820 remember laughing and going oh my 281 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:22,980 goodness there's like six billion people 282 00:11:28,069 --> 00:11:25,680 on Earth and I'm 24 years old and this 283 00:11:30,949 --> 00:11:28,079 is the first time I've drank water and 284 00:11:33,650 --> 00:11:30,959 most people probably never will and it 285 00:11:36,050 --> 00:11:33,660 was like a weird truth 286 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:36,060 happening in my life about something I 287 00:11:39,530 --> 00:11:37,860 was suspicious about but I didn't have 288 00:11:42,050 --> 00:11:39,540 an explanation for 289 00:11:44,990 --> 00:11:42,060 and up until that point I wasn't really 290 00:11:48,650 --> 00:11:45,000 a big fan of drinking water or you know 291 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:48,660 the way I just never had a consuming 292 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:50,700 attraction to water 293 00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:53,040 and at that moment I realized that 294 00:11:58,730 --> 00:11:55,320 certain types of water were the Pinnacle 295 00:12:01,250 --> 00:11:58,740 of the fluid that I put my body and for 296 00:12:03,470 --> 00:12:01,260 me my relationship with horses and water 297 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:03,480 like kind of culminated right there is a 298 00:12:08,329 --> 00:12:05,760 truth that I knew I'd never really be 299 00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:08,339 able to share but no matter how much I 300 00:12:13,130 --> 00:12:10,079 talk about it I can't explain what 301 00:12:16,009 --> 00:12:13,140 happened because my relationship with 302 00:12:18,110 --> 00:12:16,019 water and horses are unique and that's 303 00:12:20,329 --> 00:12:18,120 where they combined in a like a super 304 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:20,339 deep Truth for me where I just knew I 305 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:22,320 didn't need science I didn't need 306 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:24,720 anybody else to tell me anything I just 307 00:12:30,590 --> 00:12:27,600 knew yeah yeah I think that's a great 308 00:12:34,130 --> 00:12:30,600 story and so later on I believe you were 309 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:34,140 asked to check out a product for a steel 310 00:12:38,509 --> 00:12:36,240 company or something there talk to us 311 00:12:41,389 --> 00:12:38,519 about the real aha moment where you just 312 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:41,399 fully dedicated yourself to water 313 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:42,660 okay 314 00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:44,880 and so this is like many years later 315 00:12:51,050 --> 00:12:46,740 I'll guess about seven or eight or 316 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:51,060 something like that and so my dad I was 317 00:12:55,790 --> 00:12:52,740 kind of working a little bit on the 318 00:12:57,769 --> 00:12:55,800 outside of his Steel company 319 00:13:01,389 --> 00:12:57,779 I'd help out every now and then but it 320 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:01,399 really wasn't my deal and at some point 321 00:13:06,110 --> 00:13:04,680 it kind of came back full circle I was 322 00:13:08,569 --> 00:13:06,120 on the road with my dad in Texas 323 00:13:09,470 --> 00:13:08,579 visiting different steel mills down 324 00:13:11,810 --> 00:13:09,480 there 325 00:13:13,610 --> 00:13:11,820 and he said to me you know we've been 326 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:13,620 running our product for like 20 some 327 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:15,360 years now 328 00:13:20,210 --> 00:13:18,240 I really want you to get involved and we 329 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:20,220 need to come up with a new product 330 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:22,380 something that helps the steel mills out 331 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:24,360 that's valuable you know and I said all 332 00:13:28,430 --> 00:13:26,399 right I don't know the steel mill 333 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:28,440 process as well as I should to answer 334 00:13:31,970 --> 00:13:29,760 that question 335 00:13:34,370 --> 00:13:31,980 but if you're willing to broaden you 336 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:34,380 know what we design and manufacture I'll 337 00:13:39,769 --> 00:13:37,200 find somewhere in the steel mill that we 338 00:13:43,190 --> 00:13:39,779 can improve something to the point where 339 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:43,200 it has value for them and she said all 340 00:13:47,629 --> 00:13:45,480 right and then I said give me a year to 341 00:13:49,190 --> 00:13:47,639 study the process in detail the whole 342 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:49,200 steel process 343 00:13:53,629 --> 00:13:52,500 how I feel I need to and I'll see what 344 00:13:56,449 --> 00:13:53,639 comes up 345 00:13:58,129 --> 00:13:56,459 and he said all right go do it and about 346 00:14:00,590 --> 00:13:58,139 a month later 347 00:14:03,290 --> 00:14:00,600 I was doing some side work on some weird 348 00:14:05,690 --> 00:14:03,300 electric cars this is like it's like 349 00:14:07,190 --> 00:14:05,700 some kind of French electric car and 350 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:07,200 some people called me that I had 351 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:09,120 previously known from racing and they 352 00:14:12,829 --> 00:14:11,160 were running a business with golf carts 353 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:12,839 electric cars 354 00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:15,600 automotive service 355 00:14:21,230 --> 00:14:17,100 you know they were out in the country 356 00:14:23,810 --> 00:14:21,240 kind of in Farmland doing this ATV 357 00:14:27,650 --> 00:14:23,820 kind of a wide range full service just 358 00:14:30,110 --> 00:14:27,660 like you know mechanic electrical take 359 00:14:32,210 --> 00:14:30,120 care of people in that sense 360 00:14:33,769 --> 00:14:32,220 and I did a little work for them on the 361 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:33,779 side every now and then when things were 362 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:37,320 slow and so they called me one day and I 363 00:14:41,689 --> 00:14:39,420 had done you know work for them recently 364 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:41,699 in the past so that's how they knew 365 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:43,860 and they were like hey we came across 366 00:14:49,250 --> 00:14:45,839 this technology that we want to install 367 00:14:51,290 --> 00:14:49,260 on people's vehicles that you know 368 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:51,300 reduces emissions and increases fuel 369 00:14:55,850 --> 00:14:52,320 mileage 370 00:15:00,050 --> 00:14:55,860 and this is somewhere in the 0807 range 371 00:15:02,389 --> 00:15:00,060 oh 708 right and this individual was a 372 00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:02,399 Vietnam vet and I always admired him he 373 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:05,519 always gave me good advice and I kind of 374 00:15:09,590 --> 00:15:07,199 knew his family through racing and 375 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:09,600 making hot rods and performance 376 00:15:14,389 --> 00:15:11,880 application stuff that I used to be into 377 00:15:15,470 --> 00:15:14,399 as uh Hobby and a little bit of a 378 00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:15,480 profession 379 00:15:20,090 --> 00:15:18,240 and I said all right I'll look at it I 380 00:15:21,769 --> 00:15:20,100 said well how what's the basis of it and 381 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:21,779 they said well basically you just pour 382 00:15:28,250 --> 00:15:24,720 water in it and 383 00:15:31,250 --> 00:15:28,260 turn it on and there's some tricks to it 384 00:15:33,710 --> 00:15:31,260 some engine stuff and I I was always 385 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:33,720 fascinated with race engines so I 386 00:15:38,629 --> 00:15:36,779 studied race engines which largely 387 00:15:40,129 --> 00:15:38,639 worked from vibrations and how the 388 00:15:42,590 --> 00:15:40,139 vibrations combined within the engine 389 00:15:44,930 --> 00:15:42,600 and break the laws of physics so 390 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:44,940 mind you I already knew that I already 391 00:15:48,889 --> 00:15:48,000 had a pretty deep experience in nuclear 392 00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:48,899 power 393 00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:51,600 which also breaks a lot of the laws of 394 00:15:57,170 --> 00:15:54,720 normal physics Newtonian physics even 395 00:15:58,370 --> 00:15:57,180 with what we call corrective factors 396 00:16:00,829 --> 00:15:58,380 that we 397 00:16:02,449 --> 00:16:00,839 kind of do to make the physics work when 398 00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:02,459 we get into the fluid flow and 399 00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:04,860 engineering and science background of it 400 00:16:09,170 --> 00:16:07,500 so it's not like I'm unqualified to take 401 00:16:11,870 --> 00:16:09,180 a look at this 402 00:16:14,750 --> 00:16:11,880 I know Automotive engines very well Way 403 00:16:16,930 --> 00:16:14,760 Beyond the general Automotive World deep 404 00:16:19,610 --> 00:16:16,940 into the racing history deep into 405 00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:19,620 Charles Taylor who's considered the 406 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:22,079 Godfather of the ice engine which is 407 00:16:28,610 --> 00:16:24,720 internal combustion engine and so I had 408 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:28,620 studied MIT level ice engines down to 409 00:16:32,030 --> 00:16:30,000 the T 410 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:32,040 I've been involved in professional 411 00:16:37,090 --> 00:16:34,800 racing at the NASCAR level and engine 412 00:16:39,889 --> 00:16:37,100 building at the highest levels as far as 413 00:16:41,569 --> 00:16:39,899 actual output figures output 414 00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:41,579 efficiencies right 415 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:43,920 so these guys know I'm qualified to take 416 00:16:47,810 --> 00:16:45,480 a look at this and they tell me it's 417 00:16:49,790 --> 00:16:47,820 water and it makes this substance called 418 00:16:51,710 --> 00:16:49,800 HHO 419 00:16:55,249 --> 00:16:51,720 and so I'm thinking about it and I'm 420 00:16:59,210 --> 00:16:55,259 going well HHO I never heard of that 421 00:17:01,490 --> 00:16:59,220 but let's explore into it so 422 00:17:04,010 --> 00:17:01,500 I follow the group a little bit that's 423 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:04,020 selling this technology 424 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,199 get firsthand with them and they have 425 00:17:12,350 --> 00:17:08,959 pretty poor explanations of everything 426 00:17:14,689 --> 00:17:12,360 in my opinion from what is available for 427 00:17:17,090 --> 00:17:14,699 conventional knowledge Beyond Newtonian 428 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,100 physics like nuclear power stuff that's 429 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:19,679 already done to scale things that are 430 00:17:26,030 --> 00:17:22,079 producing in the Thousand megawatt range 431 00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:26,040 reliably 24 7. so it's not like this is 432 00:17:31,690 --> 00:17:28,799 Theory or modeling this is qualified 433 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:31,700 application to a degree of reliability 434 00:17:36,830 --> 00:17:34,080 that is Way Beyond what your 435 00:17:39,169 --> 00:17:36,840 conventional person considers operating 436 00:17:42,650 --> 00:17:39,179 in what I would call more civilian 437 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,660 territory with unclassified projects 438 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:44,160 so 439 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,500 I'm like I'll give this a wing I talk to 440 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,240 some people technical from their side 441 00:17:52,669 --> 00:17:50,880 some of the guys seem to be 442 00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:52,679 knowledgeable know what they're doing so 443 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:55,679 yes I will assess this for you so I 444 00:17:58,909 --> 00:17:56,880 purchase 445 00:18:00,049 --> 00:17:58,919 the technology and joint with this 446 00:18:03,049 --> 00:18:00,059 company 447 00:18:06,049 --> 00:18:03,059 and do an assessment 448 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,059 and immediately with minor adjustments 449 00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:08,880 the vehicle doubles fuel mileage and 450 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:11,039 runs way better across the board and it 451 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:14,160 did take some intricate knowledge of how 452 00:18:18,110 --> 00:18:16,140 to tune and what a motor looks for and 453 00:18:20,690 --> 00:18:18,120 what it's doing but I mean it was like 454 00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:20,700 right out of the box uh 2003 Jeep 455 00:18:25,789 --> 00:18:23,520 Cherokee 4 liter never got better than 456 00:18:29,150 --> 00:18:25,799 20 miles to a gallon and on the freeway 457 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:29,160 I was turning 43 within two weeks of 458 00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:31,679 tuning and installing probably about 40 459 00:18:37,610 --> 00:18:34,559 hours worth of work to find the limits 460 00:18:40,250 --> 00:18:37,620 so the Under and Over and that amazed me 461 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,260 and at that point I said well I can tell 462 00:18:45,470 --> 00:18:43,200 you one thing for certain it is not 463 00:18:48,490 --> 00:18:45,480 powered by hydrogen there's something 464 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:48,500 else going on here because hydrogen 465 00:18:53,810 --> 00:18:51,360 cannot account the way we understand it 466 00:18:56,330 --> 00:18:53,820 the way the equations work the way 467 00:18:59,390 --> 00:18:56,340 electrolysis works on a separation 468 00:19:01,610 --> 00:18:59,400 Factor separating hydrogen from oxygen 469 00:19:03,409 --> 00:19:01,620 but I knew we weren't by the design of 470 00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:03,419 the thing I knew we were bleeding a 471 00:19:07,070 --> 00:19:04,200 whole 472 00:19:09,409 --> 00:19:07,080 hydrogen oxygen situation into the motor 473 00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:09,419 at a certain rate which 474 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:13,320 by conventional burning and BTU value of 475 00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:15,360 hydrogen and that's this is where 476 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:16,860 everybody goes wrong in their 477 00:19:21,409 --> 00:19:19,440 programming is burning the word burning 478 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:21,419 or oxidation 479 00:19:26,450 --> 00:19:24,900 the level of oxidation or burning so I 480 00:19:29,150 --> 00:19:26,460 said you know what the automotive 481 00:19:31,490 --> 00:19:29,160 world's a headache 482 00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:31,500 you know Ford's already involved in this 483 00:19:35,930 --> 00:19:33,720 Boeing's already involved in this this 484 00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:35,940 is a political nightmare these are some 485 00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:37,860 things I knew from researching into it 486 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:40,620 that actually were recorded collectively 487 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:43,260 so all this can be verified some of it 488 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:45,360 was on the news some of it was on 60 489 00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:48,960 Minutes but in the end I thought 490 00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:51,539 whatever this is is operating on a 491 00:19:56,750 --> 00:19:54,600 totally different principle and screw 492 00:19:58,730 --> 00:19:56,760 trying to install these on automobiles 493 00:20:00,650 --> 00:19:58,740 and fighting the machine because we're 494 00:20:02,270 --> 00:20:00,660 never going to win that fight and 495 00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:02,280 everybody's gonna blame you when the 496 00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:04,860 slightest thing goes wrong with this 497 00:20:09,890 --> 00:20:07,799 and this group is not ready for scale 498 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:09,900 introduction they're just in a war with 499 00:20:13,970 --> 00:20:12,000 the oil companies introducing 500 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:13,980 technologies that are probably over 100 501 00:20:20,990 --> 00:20:18,000 years old to date with my research 502 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:21,000 and so what I say is I want to know more 503 00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:23,640 about this stuff and I want to see like 504 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:27,360 how it so-called Burns so I took the 505 00:20:32,990 --> 00:20:30,240 unit out of the automobile put it in my 506 00:20:35,870 --> 00:20:33,000 garage you know kind of laboratory that 507 00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:35,880 I normally use for building race engines 508 00:20:41,390 --> 00:20:38,280 and I said I'm going to put this in a 509 00:20:44,510 --> 00:20:41,400 nozzle and see how it burns 510 00:20:46,370 --> 00:20:44,520 and so I just hooked up a little setup 511 00:20:48,049 --> 00:20:46,380 and started measuring some stuff and I 512 00:20:50,510 --> 00:20:48,059 turned the gas on 513 00:20:52,610 --> 00:20:50,520 you know it's a little setup with a 514 00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:52,620 battery and some other in between 515 00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:55,200 devices to change the vibrations minorly 516 00:21:01,310 --> 00:20:59,460 and I lit it and the moment it lit up I 517 00:21:04,250 --> 00:21:01,320 knew I was witnessing something that was 518 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:04,260 truly unique that was not discussed even 519 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:07,679 at the specified project levels in the 520 00:21:12,049 --> 00:21:10,080 military because I had those reasonable 521 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:12,059 clearances in nuclear power where you 522 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:13,679 learn about stuff that they normally 523 00:21:19,310 --> 00:21:14,940 don't teach 524 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:19,320 and that moment was like bing okay now 525 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:20,940 I'm up till three in the morning working 526 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:23,640 two jobs every day to not only just pay 527 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,640 for my bills in life and I recently just 528 00:21:30,830 --> 00:21:28,320 got married too so this all wasn't 529 00:21:35,930 --> 00:21:30,840 working out too good for that 530 00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:35,940 but I was locked in and I was working as 531 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:38,700 much as possible in a 20 probably 18 to 532 00:21:43,250 --> 00:21:41,520 20 hours out of a day making them I was 533 00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,260 driven to make more money than ever 534 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:45,840 before to afford the research and 535 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:47,820 development to find out more about what 536 00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:48,900 this was 537 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:52,140 and in the end I very affordably did 538 00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:53,700 some simple testing because I couldn't 539 00:21:59,390 --> 00:21:56,700 afford really expensive stuff like deep 540 00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,400 Mass spectral testing to validate 541 00:22:03,770 --> 00:22:01,440 in the end I did a simple experiment 542 00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:03,780 looking at the availability of oxygen 543 00:22:08,210 --> 00:22:05,760 within the gas 544 00:22:10,850 --> 00:22:08,220 which is easy to do and in the end I 545 00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:10,860 found out the oxygen was unavailable 546 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:13,679 through a 3000 degree burn meaning I 547 00:22:19,010 --> 00:22:16,080 could take this vapor and Bleed it 548 00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:19,020 through a 3000 degree flame and it would 549 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:22,380 not react with the flame which if I just 550 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:24,120 took oxygen and shoved it in there the 551 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,860 flame would totally change its Behavior 552 00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:27,600 so this 553 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:29,100 vapor 554 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:32,820 as it is properly understood is coherent 555 00:22:37,789 --> 00:22:35,039 enough to travel through 3000 degrees 556 00:22:39,049 --> 00:22:37,799 and keep the hydrogen oxygen bonds 557 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:39,059 stable 558 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:40,860 as a vapor 559 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,080 and that took about 50 bucks to run that 560 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,880 test meanwhile universities and 561 00:22:48,590 --> 00:22:46,080 everybody else 562 00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:48,600 are getting and spending millions of 563 00:22:54,649 --> 00:22:51,780 dollars not correctly describing what's 564 00:22:57,950 --> 00:22:54,659 going on which just led to a Cascade of 565 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,960 studying liquid water ice the behavior 566 00:23:04,490 --> 00:23:00,240 of water everywhere and anywhere and 567 00:23:06,649 --> 00:23:04,500 what is this new force that is not 568 00:23:09,649 --> 00:23:06,659 widely taught even to somebody who has 569 00:23:12,649 --> 00:23:09,659 postgraduate practical knowledge of 570 00:23:16,250 --> 00:23:12,659 things in physics that are Beyond and 571 00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:16,260 the chase is on at that point in 2009 572 00:23:22,850 --> 00:23:18,900 about is when that happened 573 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,860 I love it I love it and so to broaden 574 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,720 this out to 575 00:23:30,529 --> 00:23:27,600 the way we use water in society the 576 00:23:33,890 --> 00:23:30,539 plumbing system versus what you saw in 577 00:23:36,529 --> 00:23:33,900 the mountain with the horse and just how 578 00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,539 it affects our body and how not all 579 00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:38,640 water is created equal when you compare 580 00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:41,179 and contrast water in the natural world 581 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:45,480 versus our city water obviously we know 582 00:23:49,789 --> 00:23:47,400 it's worse quality because of the 583 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:49,799 contaminants in it the fluoride the 584 00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:52,260 chlorine the Pharmaceuticals that have 585 00:23:56,690 --> 00:23:53,820 been flushed down the toilet the forever 586 00:23:58,370 --> 00:23:56,700 chemicals that are in it but that's not 587 00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:58,380 really what we're talking about here 588 00:24:03,890 --> 00:24:00,840 that's like a 101 understanding yeah you 589 00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:03,900 shouldn't pump dead water through lead 590 00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:06,720 pipes to people's houses got it uh 591 00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:08,760 that's a very simple understanding but 592 00:24:13,789 --> 00:24:11,220 there's these other more magical 593 00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:13,799 processes that seem to emerge from 594 00:24:18,770 --> 00:24:17,039 nature and changing the quality of the 595 00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:18,780 water some people say fourth phase of 596 00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:20,820 water some people say gel State 597 00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:24,539 structured water you were told HHO 598 00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,700 there's all these terms and maybe they 599 00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:28,080 are different things maybe there's 600 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:30,659 multiple aspects of water that are 601 00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:32,940 hidden from us but in terms of like the 602 00:24:36,830 --> 00:24:35,100 way our City Water Works versus nature 603 00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,840 how would you compare and contrast that 604 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:39,360 and and like now knowing what you know 605 00:24:44,990 --> 00:24:42,960 how would you design a water system for 606 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:45,000 a mid-sized City 607 00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:47,340 okay yeah interesting that's like real 608 00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:49,980 scale level stuff which is different 609 00:24:54,049 --> 00:24:51,960 than say what we do when we're treating 610 00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:54,059 water with your home a half inch pipe a 611 00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:56,280 three-quarter pipe a one inch pipe 612 00:25:02,029 --> 00:24:58,740 totally different mechanics 613 00:25:04,669 --> 00:25:02,039 but the same air right moving water in a 614 00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:04,679 straight line under pressure 615 00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:07,200 and it's not that water doesn't like or 616 00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:10,380 can't take pressure it does but not in 617 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,580 that way 618 00:25:16,810 --> 00:25:14,159 but you know in a central system we need 619 00:25:18,409 --> 00:25:16,820 the pressure to get the water to people 620 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:18,419 and 621 00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:20,820 that's really the name of the game there 622 00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:24,179 is rotation is completely starved out of 623 00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:26,760 the equation it's rotation and even if 624 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:29,340 you look at the Bernoulli's energy 625 00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:32,340 balance in physics if you look at any of 626 00:25:37,850 --> 00:25:35,220 the mathematics in electrical Dynamics 627 00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:37,860 none of them allow for rotation along 628 00:25:44,090 --> 00:25:41,220 the line of intention which means I want 629 00:25:48,169 --> 00:25:44,100 to get this from here to there what's 630 00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:48,179 the best way to do it and the caveman in 631 00:25:52,669 --> 00:25:50,760 US says go in a straight line but the 632 00:25:54,769 --> 00:25:52,679 caveman who walks the mountains in the 633 00:25:57,049 --> 00:25:54,779 forest knows there's no such thing as a 634 00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:57,059 straight line and so everything's always 635 00:26:00,830 --> 00:25:58,980 moving from left to right and right to 636 00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,840 left over and over and over again and 637 00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:03,120 when it does it in an organized spin 638 00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:04,320 equation 639 00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:07,080 not only the substance that's doing it 640 00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:09,240 changes but the environment around it 641 00:26:14,810 --> 00:26:12,179 changes even without direct contact and 642 00:26:17,149 --> 00:26:14,820 it turns out there's quite a large 643 00:26:20,269 --> 00:26:17,159 historical study of this physics 644 00:26:24,169 --> 00:26:20,279 phenomenon that's not quite as rigid as 645 00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:24,179 the Grid or the A to B analysis so in a 646 00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:26,700 way the intention should be to deliver 647 00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:29,880 high quality water to the residents of a 648 00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:33,360 mid-sized City it is obvious that water 649 00:26:39,769 --> 00:26:37,020 never ever ever moves in the way we 650 00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,779 choose to move it and it is obvious that 651 00:26:43,850 --> 00:26:41,520 the water spends most of its energy 652 00:26:45,470 --> 00:26:43,860 trying to break out of the pipe 653 00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:45,480 hmm 654 00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:47,760 and that means the why it's like you 655 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:49,740 trying to break out of a room constantly 656 00:26:56,210 --> 00:26:53,580 right a jail cell being handcuffed being 657 00:26:58,730 --> 00:26:56,220 in a straight jacket it's literally like 658 00:27:02,029 --> 00:26:58,740 you're trying to free yourself up so you 659 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,039 can move the way you want to move and 660 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,080 what I say is how does water want to 661 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:07,200 move rather than going this is random 662 00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:10,260 this is a forced condition I loved your 663 00:27:16,669 --> 00:27:13,679 intro because it hit on the idea that 664 00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:16,679 somehow humankind thinks it can dominate 665 00:27:23,149 --> 00:27:19,320 over the laws of the universe and that 666 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:23,159 is a feudal pathogenic self-destructive 667 00:27:28,250 --> 00:27:25,200 Behavior and the whole Collective human 668 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:28,260 race can feel it the biggest way to 669 00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:31,140 unveil that or unwind that in my opinion 670 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:33,240 is through the master element which I 671 00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:36,360 call water and we watch how it likes to 672 00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:38,700 move because it carves its own pathway 673 00:27:42,409 --> 00:27:40,380 through nature 674 00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:42,419 and you know when you're watching a 675 00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:44,460 river that's been around for a million 676 00:27:49,490 --> 00:27:47,100 years you're watching the wisdom 677 00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:49,500 that's the simple wisdom that's in the 678 00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:51,720 water as it reshapes rocks to make the 679 00:27:56,029 --> 00:27:53,580 Rock and the elements that are in it 680 00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:56,039 better to make the water better to make 681 00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,080 the Rock and the elements better it's a 682 00:28:03,289 --> 00:28:00,720 Synergy this doesn't cause that they 683 00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:03,299 happen simultaneously moving forward to 684 00:28:06,830 --> 00:28:04,559 higher quality 685 00:28:09,649 --> 00:28:06,840 I suppose that's the transition we need 686 00:28:11,930 --> 00:28:09,659 to face as human beings right now so 687 00:28:14,029 --> 00:28:11,940 that's it in a nutshell we're moving the 688 00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,039 water incorrectly by forcing it into 689 00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:15,600 straight lines 690 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,419 in a saturated mode like there's no 691 00:28:23,570 --> 00:28:21,120 looseness in the water there's no gas 692 00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:23,580 there's no air in there if you watch 693 00:28:28,909 --> 00:28:25,799 water in a clear pipe under pumping 694 00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,919 pressure you can't even tell it's moving 695 00:28:32,029 --> 00:28:30,480 you would think that the water was 696 00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:32,039 sitting still in the pipe when you're 697 00:28:38,930 --> 00:28:34,500 moving it at 100 gallons a minute at 200 698 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,940 PSI and that tells you it's stuffed you 699 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:41,039 know right on yes 700 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:42,840 you know there's a lot of people who 701 00:28:48,649 --> 00:28:46,320 probably think water is boring just not 702 00:28:50,810 --> 00:28:48,659 that interesting but I really want them 703 00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,820 to see it in a new light because I've 704 00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:52,559 heard you talk about how we should think 705 00:28:58,610 --> 00:28:56,340 of water as a living substance as an 706 00:29:00,350 --> 00:28:58,620 intelligent substance I mean you started 707 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:00,360 by saying the spirit of water well what 708 00:29:03,710 --> 00:29:01,200 is that 709 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:03,720 indicate it means it has some kind of 710 00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:07,380 intelligence to it and you've used terms 711 00:29:12,529 --> 00:29:10,140 like exhausted water or dead water or 712 00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:12,539 stressed water in terms of what comes 713 00:29:19,610 --> 00:29:15,900 out of our pipes and really it needs to 714 00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:19,620 be massaged and folded in vortexed as 715 00:29:24,169 --> 00:29:21,720 you would see in a stream maybe kneading 716 00:29:28,130 --> 00:29:24,179 dough or a Taffy puller might be a good 717 00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:28,140 analogy for what water needs or likes to 718 00:29:34,370 --> 00:29:29,940 create more energy I believe you've said 719 00:29:36,049 --> 00:29:34,380 that the qualities of this structured 720 00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:36,059 optimized water that we're talking about 721 00:29:42,049 --> 00:29:38,580 it comes from not necessarily the 722 00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:42,059 pulling apart but it wants so much to 723 00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:43,559 get back together 724 00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,320 that that's kind of what what causes the 725 00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:48,480 magic help me out here 726 00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:52,380 yeah and I think like there's a broad 727 00:29:56,930 --> 00:29:55,020 and I like the human race as a whole to 728 00:29:59,630 --> 00:29:56,940 know that I think these types of 729 00:30:00,769 --> 00:29:59,640 principles should be in education as 730 00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:00,779 young 731 00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:02,760 once you've seen the world a little bit 732 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:05,100 these are very very very simple things 733 00:30:09,049 --> 00:30:06,720 so 734 00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:09,059 when we look at what water likes and 735 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,700 what doesn't like and we start talking 736 00:30:16,490 --> 00:30:13,740 about extremes like oh don't stress the 737 00:30:19,490 --> 00:30:16,500 water right well actually water likes a 738 00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:19,500 little bit of rhythmic stress 739 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,380 but there's a threshold to it so water 740 00:30:27,049 --> 00:30:24,480 likes to move apart and come back 741 00:30:28,029 --> 00:30:27,059 together again and each time it does 742 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,039 that 743 00:30:33,649 --> 00:30:30,720 gets moved apart and comes back together 744 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,659 it raises its quality and it's a 745 00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:36,240 measurable not very easily measured 746 00:30:39,529 --> 00:30:37,799 because it's hard to get instruments 747 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:39,539 into the water without affecting the 748 00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:40,799 water so you get into like the 749 00:30:45,889 --> 00:30:44,100 Heisenberg Principle The Observer starts 750 00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:45,899 to affect the end result which is very 751 00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,460 true with water 752 00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:49,679 it makes the science difficult when 753 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:52,440 people start making stuff up 754 00:31:00,610 --> 00:30:56,159 in order to explain and sell things 755 00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:00,620 versus share the foundational spiritual 756 00:31:06,669 --> 00:31:03,720 essence of the equation that gets to the 757 00:31:09,950 --> 00:31:06,679 soul of yourself and the soul of water 758 00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:09,960 which largely those two coincide 759 00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,240 together in your body 760 00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:15,120 and can also operate at a distance from 761 00:31:19,310 --> 00:31:17,039 your body but it's all kind of the same 762 00:31:21,529 --> 00:31:19,320 thing like The Ether 763 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:21,539 so in order to create with a higher 764 00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:24,480 quality water likes a certain amount of 765 00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:26,520 threshold of stress and then let go and 766 00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:29,880 Rewind together so hydrogen and oxygen 767 00:31:36,889 --> 00:31:33,860 are not like a chemical and h3o2 H2O 768 00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:36,899 that's not really the spirit of water at 769 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:39,600 all those are the physical manifests of 770 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:40,860 the spirit 771 00:31:45,769 --> 00:31:43,140 and when we're done destroying that 772 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,779 Spirit as much as we can what's left is 773 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:47,279 H2O 774 00:31:54,289 --> 00:31:50,880 and that's not even true Gerald Pollock 775 00:31:56,690 --> 00:31:54,299 is theorizing on h3o2 there's no fact to 776 00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:56,700 it whatsoever and I could actually break 777 00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,460 down the fact of chemical compounds and 778 00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,919 molecules in the mass spectral and UV 779 00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:04,559 spectromic spectrometer analysis which 780 00:32:09,409 --> 00:32:07,140 is the way we kind of claim that we have 781 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,419 proof that this atom exists or doesn't 782 00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:11,940 exist and what we have proof of is a 783 00:32:15,049 --> 00:32:13,980 probability for a circumstance meaning 784 00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:15,059 if we 785 00:32:20,649 --> 00:32:17,640 destroy the water with Force the highest 786 00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:20,659 probability leftover part is going to be 787 00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:24,600 H2O so that may like give somebody a 788 00:32:29,330 --> 00:32:27,240 reference for like what science is what 789 00:32:32,990 --> 00:32:29,340 science isn't science is more like the 790 00:32:36,049 --> 00:32:33,000 probable perspective given X conditions 791 00:32:39,470 --> 00:32:36,059 and so conditions of breaking things 792 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:39,480 apart intentionally lead to parts of 793 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:42,179 Acts that are the most solid but if we 794 00:32:45,649 --> 00:32:44,340 take the perspective of putting things 795 00:32:48,590 --> 00:32:45,659 together 796 00:32:51,649 --> 00:32:48,600 then we end up with the new end product 797 00:32:53,810 --> 00:32:51,659 which is more like water so if you take 798 00:32:56,269 --> 00:32:53,820 that idea of how do we put water 799 00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:56,279 together not 800 00:33:01,490 --> 00:32:58,860 like even put it back together but just 801 00:33:04,970 --> 00:33:01,500 say how does water put itself together 802 00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:04,980 in nature we end up with 803 00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:07,919 we use integrals in the real analysis 804 00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:10,740 which is the area under the curve and 805 00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:12,659 what it ends up with is asymmetrical 806 00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:16,200 waveforms that indicate impulses 807 00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:18,360 with information 808 00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,580 like I'm going to send an impulse and on 809 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:22,620 it is a packet of information that gives 810 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,179 you an instruction kind of like a zip 811 00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:27,360 folder like a zip file like I sent you 812 00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:30,179 the zip file you unzip it and out comes 813 00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:32,820 a bunch more information and this is 814 00:33:38,750 --> 00:33:35,700 precisely how water carries itself and 815 00:33:41,450 --> 00:33:38,760 how water communicates and if you put 816 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:41,460 water under too much stress for too long 817 00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:45,120 it adapts and changes its mode of 818 00:33:49,789 --> 00:33:47,340 operation actually hardens itself to 819 00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,799 protect itself which is kind of what we 820 00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:51,600 call like the eggshell layer that 821 00:33:56,810 --> 00:33:53,820 everybody calls hexagonal water 822 00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:56,820 so the history of mukshi Koon 823 00:34:02,509 --> 00:34:00,539 the Kangen water all that stuff like the 824 00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:02,519 harder stuff they were able to measure 825 00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:04,260 because when they tried breaking it 826 00:34:09,230 --> 00:34:07,140 apart using conventional science it had 827 00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:09,240 bigger pieces of the different side of 828 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,580 itself and they were on to that but then 829 00:34:16,369 --> 00:34:14,399 everybody over bit into that equation 830 00:34:18,349 --> 00:34:16,379 and kind of went back to the hardened 831 00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,359 story like the eggshell and threw away 832 00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:20,639 the yolk and the whites and now we're 833 00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:22,139 studying the eggshell that's like that's 834 00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:23,700 what Gerald Pollock's doing with easy 835 00:34:29,869 --> 00:34:26,520 water and it's not a debate it's a fact 836 00:34:32,210 --> 00:34:29,879 he has measurements that hey we're going 837 00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:32,220 to talk about less than one percent of 838 00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:33,960 the total body of the water 839 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,659 in the scientific side of it that being 840 00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:38,879 said Gerald Pollock 841 00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:41,460 I've heard in private does have a more 842 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:43,679 spiritual discussion of water but what's 843 00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:45,839 in print and what's facing outward is a 844 00:34:52,010 --> 00:34:48,540 tiny tiny bit of the principle of water 845 00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,020 and that opens up the door kind of more 846 00:34:56,329 --> 00:34:54,240 to the Native American side and the 847 00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:56,339 indigenous cultures and the aerobatic 848 00:35:01,070 --> 00:34:58,680 right so now I'm like an industrial 849 00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:01,080 technical race car engine builder guy 850 00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:03,540 who's who has always been interested in 851 00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:06,060 fishing and being in nature and then 852 00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:08,540 studied Native American 853 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:11,460 principle ever since I was a kid because 854 00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,040 my mom read these big books on the topic 855 00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:16,079 and used to kind of teach me a little 856 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:17,880 bit about you know our country and what 857 00:35:24,349 --> 00:35:20,160 it was like before our family started 858 00:35:27,290 --> 00:35:24,359 coming here right the Immigrant story so 859 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,300 there you go with like how it starts to 860 00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:30,180 come full circle with my own Spirit how 861 00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,520 for everyone like you know we're mostly 862 00:35:37,250 --> 00:35:34,320 water and so is the planet so we're 863 00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:37,260 literally water beings and the planet is 864 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,480 a water being whereas you could go to 865 00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:41,280 another planet and the frequencies are 866 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:43,140 different and we wouldn't recognize what 867 00:35:47,089 --> 00:35:45,119 the water was there other than what's 868 00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:47,099 the life force that drives this planet 869 00:35:54,109 --> 00:35:50,280 that's most concrete that expresses the 870 00:35:56,329 --> 00:35:54,119 desire and manifest equally as the 871 00:35:59,210 --> 00:35:56,339 universe does as we all observe it 872 00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,220 mm-hmm well said it seems like you were 873 00:36:04,310 --> 00:36:01,440 totally primed to be in this position 874 00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:04,320 and it is strange because water is so 875 00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:06,300 ubiquitous in our bodies and our 876 00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:08,700 environment that it's odd that it has 877 00:36:13,250 --> 00:36:10,500 these qualities that have gone pretty 878 00:36:14,890 --> 00:36:13,260 under the radar until recent years and 879 00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:14,900 it's not that it's completely 880 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,740 undiscovered because you have said in 881 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:18,000 previous interviews you thought you 882 00:36:21,710 --> 00:36:19,500 discovered something but then you went 883 00:36:24,770 --> 00:36:21,720 back through the history and realized 884 00:36:27,410 --> 00:36:24,780 there were plenty of people who are onto 885 00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,420 this stuff too in their day and we know 886 00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:29,520 a bit about Victor shawberger obviously 887 00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,740 a big name in water but can you tell us 888 00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,359 about some of the others that you 889 00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:35,760 learned about from studying the history 890 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:37,560 or some things that people just might be 891 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:41,339 interested in in terms of water and what 892 00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:44,880 never makes it into our textbooks yeah 893 00:36:48,109 --> 00:36:46,500 sure I think 894 00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,119 just kind of give a hexagonal 895 00:36:52,370 --> 00:36:50,400 perspective of water for some case a 896 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,380 parody is 897 00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:54,960 so in physics there's always been four 898 00:36:59,630 --> 00:36:57,300 phases and only four phases and four 899 00:37:01,849 --> 00:36:59,640 kind of represents logic 900 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,859 so it's like where the mind and the 901 00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:03,839 physical world meet to wrap their head 902 00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:06,420 around reality so you have a liquid 903 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,920 you have a solid and you have a gas and 904 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:13,200 basically if you look at those 905 00:37:16,910 --> 00:37:15,540 the major difference is density and 906 00:37:19,550 --> 00:37:16,920 volume 907 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:19,560 which kind of go hand in hand 908 00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,260 and then you have a fourth phase which 909 00:37:26,690 --> 00:37:24,720 every scientist and physicist and person 910 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:26,700 especially in today's terms like 911 00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:31,320 defaults to which is called plasma and 912 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,540 so you know when I first heard about 913 00:37:37,609 --> 00:37:35,520 plasma my dad started teaching me about 914 00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:37,619 superconductors and plasma probably when 915 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:39,960 I was 10 years old he was a chemist and 916 00:37:47,089 --> 00:37:43,760 kind of a unified field 917 00:37:49,010 --> 00:37:47,099 Seeker but I really became deep with 918 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,020 that what's this unified field how does 919 00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:50,400 it work that's what I want to know 920 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:52,859 what's an atom what's the idea of the 921 00:37:57,650 --> 00:37:54,180 physical world 922 00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:57,660 and so this logical Foundation is those 923 00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,700 cases so when somebody says there's a 924 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:01,680 fourth phase of water 925 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,660 the only thing it could mean to me 926 00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:05,760 because we have to agree on some form of 927 00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:08,460 logic is the plasma form of water 928 00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:11,099 so what does plasma really mean and they 929 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:14,040 say it's a state of matter transition so 930 00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,040 okay plasma is transition and transition 931 00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:19,859 is the unknown it's changing and we 932 00:38:25,609 --> 00:38:22,140 don't exactly know how it's changing if 933 00:38:28,490 --> 00:38:25,619 we haven't defined what water exactly is 934 00:38:31,130 --> 00:38:28,500 and so that's kind of my drive is to 935 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:31,140 Define what water is and Shaw Burger 936 00:38:36,650 --> 00:38:33,240 basically 937 00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:36,660 came from observing nature he was a 938 00:38:42,589 --> 00:38:39,720 Woodsman a Forester a huntsman and made 939 00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,599 some big mistakes using water to help 940 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:45,119 the forest industry and I think he was 941 00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:46,920 one of those guys that was like wow I 942 00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:48,660 just became the like biggest hypocrite 943 00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:50,940 in my life because I use water to kill 944 00:38:56,089 --> 00:38:53,820 water and I watched it happen basically 945 00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:56,099 chopped down the trees moved him out of 946 00:38:59,390 --> 00:38:57,599 the woods around a Waterway and then the 947 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,400 Waterway died because of the sunlight 948 00:39:03,470 --> 00:39:01,440 and everybody's always like oh sunlight 949 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:03,480 you know that's the thing that drives 950 00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:05,700 everything well so does Darkness 951 00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:09,180 that's not one it's how the balance work 952 00:39:13,790 --> 00:39:11,460 together how the breathing in and 953 00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:13,800 breathing out happened to create life 954 00:39:18,290 --> 00:39:16,079 and how the Synergy or the overlap or 955 00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,300 connection with the next thing like us 956 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:19,920 to the Earth that's like a big simple 957 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:22,079 thing and what's the earth made out of 958 00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:25,440 water so when I dug back into this I was 959 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,140 absolutely elated you mentioned Shaw 960 00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:30,240 burger and then there's this chain 961 00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:32,520 whether we're talking about the vapor 962 00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:34,980 whether we're talking about the liquid 963 00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:37,880 whether we're talking about the solid 964 00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:40,920 there's a case where water is almost 965 00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:43,500 always in the triple point where science 966 00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:45,240 said the triple point water is the only 967 00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:46,680 thing that can get in the triple point 968 00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:49,680 that can combine these states of matter 969 00:39:55,250 --> 00:39:52,740 that are definable liquid salt gas and 970 00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:55,260 what is the transition that was always 971 00:40:01,790 --> 00:39:59,579 my you start up an engine room and shut 972 00:40:03,410 --> 00:40:01,800 down and there's things that happen that 973 00:40:05,810 --> 00:40:03,420 are totally different than when it's 974 00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:05,820 stable and up and running due to the set 975 00:40:11,630 --> 00:40:08,820 of conditions we design upon it so I 976 00:40:14,450 --> 00:40:11,640 beat like Tesla in principle I became 977 00:40:17,569 --> 00:40:14,460 interested in Tesla because I saw 978 00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:17,579 electricity and water as identical 979 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:19,800 because when I really learned about 980 00:40:23,930 --> 00:40:22,740 electricity I was told to take the view 981 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:23,940 of water 982 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:26,460 and that will explain electricity to you 983 00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:28,920 and the deeper you look at Water the 984 00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:30,839 more you understand how energy flows 985 00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:33,420 then you can start to understand how to 986 00:40:38,810 --> 00:40:35,220 scale like what we call higher 987 00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:38,820 efficiency Energy Systems which involve 988 00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:39,599 water 989 00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:47,760 would be included in the electrogravidic 990 00:40:52,849 --> 00:40:50,880 equation in the electrodynamic equation 991 00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:52,859 and in the understanding of what 992 00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:55,020 magnetism and electricism or the 993 00:40:58,730 --> 00:40:57,240 dielectric really is or the dye magnet 994 00:41:01,130 --> 00:40:58,740 really is 995 00:41:03,770 --> 00:41:01,140 fair fair yes and I definitely want to 996 00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:03,780 talk about energy applications and over 997 00:41:07,849 --> 00:41:05,940 Unity but that's probably second hour 998 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:07,859 stuff because I want to make sure we 999 00:41:12,530 --> 00:41:09,960 also get a good at least 15 minutes in 1000 00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:12,540 this first hour about the company and 1001 00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:14,520 the products you make and how it affects 1002 00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:15,359 health 1003 00:41:19,630 --> 00:41:17,400 uh the founder of the company I 1004 00:41:23,089 --> 00:41:19,640 understand his name was Clayton Nolte 1005 00:41:25,310 --> 00:41:23,099 and I assume you met him somewhere along 1006 00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,320 the way and you're now the CEO of this 1007 00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:27,839 company talk to us about Clayton the 1008 00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:30,780 initial inventor and founder of the 1009 00:41:35,089 --> 00:41:33,180 company and some of the products that he 1010 00:41:36,650 --> 00:41:35,099 developed which have now been refined 1011 00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:36,660 even further 1012 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:40,560 yeah so I was doing the Plasma Research 1013 00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:43,680 for the steel mill so we went into to go 1014 00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:46,260 back in the history of this definitely 1015 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,660 it was obvious to everybody that the 1016 00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:51,119 water plasma which is what it is the 1017 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:52,920 water transition 1018 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,900 was implosive 1019 00:41:58,670 --> 00:41:57,119 I verified that scientifically so there 1020 00:42:02,030 --> 00:41:58,680 was a big debate amongst the community 1021 00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,040 between explosion and implosion and 1022 00:42:05,870 --> 00:42:03,839 nobody really knew about implosion so 1023 00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:05,880 this was the first thing to arrive in 1024 00:42:10,970 --> 00:42:09,240 the physics world where visually and 1025 00:42:12,970 --> 00:42:10,980 physically according to Newtonian 1026 00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:12,980 physics because unified field physics 1027 00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,500 has to also fit in the real world it has 1028 00:42:21,950 --> 00:42:19,200 to explain Newtonian physics and then go 1029 00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,960 beyond it and so I realized that that 1030 00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,700 you can't have things going on in the 1031 00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:25,440 physical world that are contrary to 1032 00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,300 unified model so we went through that 1033 00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:30,000 whole equation that water was primarily 1034 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:31,980 implosive meaning it pulled things 1035 00:42:38,089 --> 00:42:34,260 inward more than it pushed things 1036 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,099 outward and that symmetry was the lack 1037 00:42:43,130 --> 00:42:40,560 of death so anytime you created symmetry 1038 00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:43,140 motion would cease and it's called the 1039 00:42:48,770 --> 00:42:46,680 void and the void has room for an 1040 00:42:50,569 --> 00:42:48,780 endless supply of desire and ideas 1041 00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,579 coming from the universe to come through 1042 00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:52,560 so you get to this point where nothing's 1043 00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:54,839 good or nothing's bad it's just kind of 1044 00:42:59,089 --> 00:42:57,420 How the Universe behaves and it behaves 1045 00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,099 to predominate itself and water 1046 00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:02,400 expresses this so Nolte and I were very 1047 00:43:06,589 --> 00:43:04,920 close on the philosophy there so I got 1048 00:43:09,290 --> 00:43:06,599 along with them real good right off the 1049 00:43:11,569 --> 00:43:09,300 rip the four natural action had even 1050 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:11,579 formally started 1051 00:43:17,210 --> 00:43:14,400 before I had fully understood the water 1052 00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:17,220 plasma to adapt that could explain 1053 00:43:23,569 --> 00:43:21,119 liquid water and the benefits that Nolte 1054 00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:23,579 seemed to claim to oh he overclaimed 1055 00:43:29,930 --> 00:43:27,119 I'll just flat out say it he sold it in 1056 00:43:32,510 --> 00:43:29,940 ways that were in my opinion 1057 00:43:35,089 --> 00:43:32,520 disrespectful to water because it would 1058 00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:35,099 discredit what water really was if you 1059 00:43:40,490 --> 00:43:37,500 tried to make water to be like a magic 1060 00:43:42,829 --> 00:43:40,500 cure for everything as magical as I 1061 00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:42,839 think water is that's not the role in 1062 00:43:48,050 --> 00:43:45,480 function to be the final decision of 1063 00:43:51,250 --> 00:43:48,060 what happens water is more like the 1064 00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:51,260 referee the orchestrator the conductor 1065 00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:53,960 but it does not 1066 00:44:00,589 --> 00:43:58,020 dictate to participating parties what 1067 00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:00,599 they have to and cannot do it's not a 1068 00:44:05,089 --> 00:44:02,819 dictatorial government within the realm 1069 00:44:07,250 --> 00:44:05,099 of water and there's no living thing 1070 00:44:09,410 --> 00:44:07,260 that isn't primarily made up of water 1071 00:44:10,910 --> 00:44:09,420 none so there's a very simple thing 1072 00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:10,920 going on there 1073 00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:13,800 and eventually water is like the 1074 00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:15,420 physical formation I mentioned this 1075 00:44:20,809 --> 00:44:17,160 before of what I would call The Ether 1076 00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:20,819 the substrate of all manifest and what 1077 00:44:24,290 --> 00:44:22,920 the quality of that manifest and purpose 1078 00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:24,300 is going to be 1079 00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,060 and I just took to dolte on that 1080 00:44:31,609 --> 00:44:29,040 conversation because he seemed to have 1081 00:44:33,050 --> 00:44:31,619 that level of knowledge as we went on 1082 00:44:35,809 --> 00:44:33,060 with the company there was huge 1083 00:44:38,569 --> 00:44:35,819 disagreements and a lot with new 1084 00:44:40,849 --> 00:44:38,579 valuable Technologies there's a lot of 1085 00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,859 fighting a lot of devious behavior and 1086 00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:43,440 I'm talking at the professional level 1087 00:44:48,349 --> 00:44:46,500 I think that horse has been beat to 1088 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,359 death and I think I have my own 1089 00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:50,400 perspective on the foul play that when 1090 00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:53,700 you get into free energy healing Health 1091 00:44:58,670 --> 00:44:56,280 better methods that 1092 00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:58,680 reduce the harvesting of physical 1093 00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:01,440 material of Earth and delays the 1094 00:45:06,290 --> 00:45:03,480 Regeneration of them right like our 1095 00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:06,300 farming practices our pharmaceutical or 1096 00:45:12,650 --> 00:45:09,359 medicinal practices and the two 1097 00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:12,660 philosophies that both have value but 1098 00:45:17,089 --> 00:45:14,579 they're highly out of balance with the 1099 00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:17,099 truth one's kind of like 90 10 and the 1100 00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:18,540 other one ten percent of the time 1101 00:45:23,450 --> 00:45:21,119 actually probably way less than that has 1102 00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:23,460 a purpose and a value other than that 1103 00:45:28,430 --> 00:45:25,560 it's resistance to the pathway to the 1104 00:45:31,609 --> 00:45:28,440 truth to a higher quality level and how 1105 00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:31,619 energy moves like it moves in leaps and 1106 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:33,540 water behaves in this way and you asked 1107 00:45:38,510 --> 00:45:36,480 about the intelligence well when nothing 1108 00:45:40,970 --> 00:45:38,520 happens to water and the whole 1109 00:45:43,490 --> 00:45:40,980 scientific Community sees this at this 1110 00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,500 point that hey the protocols for the 1111 00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:45,119 test called for two minutes then you 1112 00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,619 knew everything about it then you shut 1113 00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:48,720 it off but people would accidentally 1114 00:45:54,829 --> 00:45:51,540 leave testing devices on water for like 1115 00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:54,839 all of a sudden somewhere between six 1116 00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:57,240 and seven minutes you see a response 1117 00:46:02,030 --> 00:46:00,180 commonly in water from leaving some type 1118 00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:02,040 of energy input 1119 00:46:06,410 --> 00:46:04,500 on and now all of a sudden the water 1120 00:46:08,630 --> 00:46:06,420 starts breathing meaning the vibrations 1121 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:08,640 start oscillating what was flat line 1122 00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,560 starts moving around 1123 00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:13,020 and then the scientist or the Observer 1124 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,160 goes 1125 00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:16,800 oh something changed and it's Dynamic 1126 00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:17,880 now 1127 00:46:22,370 --> 00:46:20,400 and it's Dynamic but it has a pattern to 1128 00:46:25,309 --> 00:46:22,380 it what is the pattern 1129 00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,319 so I analyze the patterns that would pop 1130 00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:27,540 up and they turned out to be of Phi 1131 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,300 ratios so then I started studying 1132 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:32,640 numbers and number relationships and 1133 00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:35,460 that always plays music all my life so I 1134 00:46:40,010 --> 00:46:37,380 took the number of relationships took 1135 00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:40,020 them to that and then you see a Cascade 1136 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:41,760 of people where if you read their work 1137 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:43,680 they understood that that's stuff they 1138 00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:46,560 teach in like mystery school or back-end 1139 00:46:51,410 --> 00:46:48,839 you know times when like 1140 00:46:54,410 --> 00:46:51,420 uh full development and teaching of 1141 00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,420 learning music not just how to play the 1142 00:46:58,910 --> 00:46:56,880 instrument like Jimi Hendrix but how to 1143 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:58,920 understand the geometry underneath it 1144 00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:01,200 when you get to that you know my family 1145 00:47:07,069 --> 00:47:03,660 were Freemasons from sandusky's on my 1146 00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:07,079 dad's side so around the home or a whole 1147 00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:10,319 bunch of geometric stuff in code 1148 00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:12,420 language but I could see the geometry 1149 00:47:17,630 --> 00:47:15,240 right so you start to see with my 1150 00:47:20,930 --> 00:47:17,640 journey a parallel pathway of all the 1151 00:47:23,450 --> 00:47:20,940 tools I needed culminated with water and 1152 00:47:26,089 --> 00:47:23,460 were useful in making a deeper 1153 00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,099 relationship with water and so when you 1154 00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:28,079 go back through the vapor phase you find 1155 00:47:34,309 --> 00:47:32,280 out that way before HHO way before Joel 1156 00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:34,319 Brown it's not his real name but he 1157 00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:37,140 named the substance after his fake name 1158 00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:39,900 and then before that there was roads so 1159 00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,780 there was a patent on it in the 50s and 1160 00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:45,359 before that Victor shawberger and Walter 1161 00:47:50,089 --> 00:47:48,180 Russell and Tesla were all trying to 1162 00:47:52,550 --> 00:47:50,099 teach everybody 1163 00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:52,560 how all this worked and how it was much 1164 00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:54,660 simpler than we had been presented even 1165 00:47:58,190 --> 00:47:56,579 with Newtonian physics that really 1166 00:48:00,290 --> 00:47:58,200 doesn't make sense when we observe 1167 00:48:02,210 --> 00:48:00,300 nature 1168 00:48:04,849 --> 00:48:02,220 I love it yes those are some of the 1169 00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,859 names that I'm really intrigued by in 1170 00:48:09,230 --> 00:48:06,240 terms of the people who've been kind of 1171 00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:09,240 left out of the science story and to get 1172 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:12,180 into your actual products you have like 1173 00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:14,819 a whole house system and under the sink 1174 00:48:22,750 --> 00:48:18,319 system shower filters even a portable 1175 00:48:26,410 --> 00:48:22,760 water revitalizer these are essentially 1176 00:48:30,050 --> 00:48:26,420 revitalizers and vortexes for the dead 1177 00:48:31,609 --> 00:48:30,060 stressed exhausted water that comes into 1178 00:48:36,609 --> 00:48:31,619 our homes right 1179 00:48:38,990 --> 00:48:36,619 correct and to parallel off of the last 1180 00:48:41,089 --> 00:48:39,000 portion of who is important in history 1181 00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:41,099 in this there's a guy by the name of 1182 00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:42,960 Andrea Schultz 1183 00:48:49,309 --> 00:48:46,640 and very different from a Moto 1184 00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:49,319 emoto's work I don't know if it's been 1185 00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,420 so scrubbed and twisted that it's kind 1186 00:48:55,309 --> 00:48:53,280 of like Tesla and shawberger where 1187 00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,319 you're gonna get like a fantasy side of 1188 00:48:59,390 --> 00:48:57,599 it in writing but when it comes time to 1189 00:49:01,609 --> 00:48:59,400 get hardcore with it it's like scrubbed 1190 00:49:03,230 --> 00:49:01,619 out of all the writing right and there's 1191 00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:03,240 more than stories behind that there's 1192 00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:05,400 factual evidence that these books were 1193 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,980 all scrubbed where these people went to 1194 00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:10,079 share the more simple you know the 1195 00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:12,660 12-step method of music of how this fits 1196 00:49:16,609 --> 00:49:14,040 together and what it means when you 1197 00:49:20,569 --> 00:49:16,619 create Harmony and how Harmony has the 1198 00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:20,579 definition so basically the basis behind 1199 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,920 all this technology no matter which way 1200 00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,960 we do it it's just like an instrument 1201 00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,880 like you can have a guitar that plays 1202 00:49:30,650 --> 00:49:28,800 Harmony can have a piano you can have a 1203 00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,660 violin you can have strings you can have 1204 00:49:35,150 --> 00:49:32,880 brass and all these instruments break 1205 00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:35,160 the laws of physics and then you put 1206 00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:36,960 them all together in an orchestra right 1207 00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,440 so that's water's job is to give birth 1208 00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:42,720 to the instruments and help regulate the 1209 00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:44,880 environment at which this birth occurs 1210 00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:47,160 there's a human parody that goes goes on 1211 00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:48,480 here that goes all the way to cancer 1212 00:49:53,329 --> 00:49:50,400 with this stuff and understanding what's 1213 00:49:55,309 --> 00:49:53,339 really going on which takes the fear out 1214 00:49:57,410 --> 00:49:55,319 of the equation right so if you study 1215 00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,420 white and black magic or just magic 1216 00:50:02,210 --> 00:49:59,520 moreover before you start judging it as 1217 00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:02,220 white or black there's a mechanism for 1218 00:50:08,329 --> 00:50:05,400 attention and intention and two 1219 00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:08,339 deceive would be black magic to trick 1220 00:50:12,290 --> 00:50:10,800 and this could be fun too like you know 1221 00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:12,300 how you pull a prank on your body and 1222 00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:15,000 it's way more fun than just telling a a 1223 00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:15,839 joke 1224 00:50:19,550 --> 00:50:17,819 that's kind of how the universe works 1225 00:50:21,290 --> 00:50:19,560 but it's like a like a little bit of 1226 00:50:22,970 --> 00:50:21,300 stress to make more humor out of this 1227 00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:22,980 and the humor and the end outweighs the 1228 00:50:26,809 --> 00:50:25,440 stress sure and sometimes you go too far 1229 00:50:29,630 --> 00:50:26,819 right and then you're like oh they 1230 00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:29,640 got hurt you know oh man I just hurt my 1231 00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,260 buddy and you're like man I'm so sorry 1232 00:50:35,930 --> 00:50:33,599 this was supposed to be funny you know 1233 00:50:38,270 --> 00:50:35,940 and then they get you back and you can't 1234 00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:38,280 criticize them you know and now it you 1235 00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:39,960 know it sometimes the whole thing just 1236 00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:43,440 becomes unraveled black magic is more on 1237 00:50:48,770 --> 00:50:46,079 the grounds of the way it's being 1238 00:50:50,770 --> 00:50:48,780 conducted is to deceive to the point of 1239 00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:50,780 Destruction meaning there is intention 1240 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,700 to cause harm from one Spirit to another 1241 00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,920 it's probably best to start it there 1242 00:51:02,210 --> 00:50:58,880 rather than from one being or one human 1243 00:51:04,370 --> 00:51:02,220 or human to Planet probably best to look 1244 00:51:06,170 --> 00:51:04,380 at the Spirit side of this is what is 1245 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:06,180 underneath this that's driving it and 1246 00:51:11,329 --> 00:51:08,640 how does that heal and how would water 1247 00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:11,339 automatically help that heal because of 1248 00:51:17,089 --> 00:51:14,760 observing what it really does what does 1249 00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:17,099 water really do you know it makes better 1250 00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:19,260 relationship with all things without 1251 00:51:24,349 --> 00:51:22,020 judgment and then I'm like whoa and this 1252 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:24,359 is like mathematical this is geometrical 1253 00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:26,760 this is calculable and that's the hard 1254 00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:29,880 part to explain because you know in a 1255 00:51:34,250 --> 00:51:31,920 democracy setting where people have 1256 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,260 opinions with no experience and it's 1257 00:51:39,230 --> 00:51:36,240 just all over the place it's total chaos 1258 00:51:41,150 --> 00:51:39,240 it's Anarchy like democracy is a way to 1259 00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:41,160 go to Anarchy if you ask people have no 1260 00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:42,660 idea what they're doing I've never 1261 00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,420 looked at it what their opinion is 1262 00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:48,000 and I know I represent a depth of that 1263 00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:50,280 and a controversy of that but I always 1264 00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,440 like to let people know it's through my 1265 00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,960 study because I don't believe in wasting 1266 00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:57,359 my time or anybody else's or Reinventing 1267 00:52:01,130 --> 00:51:58,319 the wheel 1268 00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,140 so I go back through history and not I 1269 00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,119 don't just read I go oh that's a great 1270 00:52:08,569 --> 00:52:05,280 idea I'm going to try that too 1271 00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,579 and there's no excuses no money excuses 1272 00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:11,040 no nothing let's try this and watch what 1273 00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,740 happens and if we're not sure in the 1274 00:52:18,170 --> 00:52:15,119 beginning let's do it over and over 1275 00:52:20,030 --> 00:52:18,180 again until we get some kind of clue of 1276 00:52:22,670 --> 00:52:20,040 what we do know about this and what we 1277 00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:22,680 don't and I think I represent a more 1278 00:52:28,130 --> 00:52:25,920 what we don't know about water at all so 1279 00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:28,140 quit trying to Define it like as easy 1280 00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:32,400 water as Brown's gas as this that or the 1281 00:52:37,549 --> 00:52:34,920 other we have to be real generic and 1282 00:52:40,609 --> 00:52:37,559 what we can say now is plasma means 1283 00:52:42,770 --> 00:52:40,619 nothing to water because water no matter 1284 00:52:45,710 --> 00:52:42,780 which phase it's in or the three phases 1285 00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:45,720 other than transition is always in 1286 00:52:52,430 --> 00:52:48,800 transition and is always supporting life 1287 00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:52,440 and it may support the life that turns 1288 00:52:56,089 --> 00:52:54,180 around and rips everything apart to 1289 00:52:58,849 --> 00:52:56,099 start over again if we don't watch out 1290 00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:58,859 so I'm not a big guy in acting like 1291 00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:01,140 water's this nice loving female 1292 00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:03,839 caressing thing that's always because 1293 00:53:09,530 --> 00:53:07,200 that's not a reality water can turn into 1294 00:53:11,569 --> 00:53:09,540 one of the most destructive things in 1295 00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:11,579 the world if it's time to tear 1296 00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:14,280 everything down and it will support the 1297 00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:17,040 pathogenic line if that's where it ends 1298 00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,020 up so 1299 00:53:23,930 --> 00:53:21,359 that gets pretty deep on you know what 1300 00:53:27,170 --> 00:53:23,940 it is what it isn't and the fact of what 1301 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:27,180 our products deal with so Andrea Schultz 1302 00:53:32,690 --> 00:53:29,359 basically found a way to repetitively 1303 00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:32,700 show that when we choose to stress water 1304 00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:36,000 too much it becomes nasty and so does 1305 00:53:40,370 --> 00:53:37,859 everything in it that's kind of the 1306 00:53:43,609 --> 00:53:40,380 extreme on the flip side of the coin we 1307 00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:43,619 can also encourage it to harmonize as 1308 00:53:49,490 --> 00:53:46,440 its primary function for what we call 1309 00:53:52,089 --> 00:53:49,500 constructive energies not pathogenic 1310 00:53:55,309 --> 00:53:52,099 Behavior so there's your dipole between 1311 00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,319 tearing things down to try it again or 1312 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:57,440 building things up with a higher quality 1313 00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:00,480 and without getting into the depth of 1314 00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,760 the science that's what every product we 1315 00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:04,319 sell and what we call the passive 1316 00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:07,440 ionization sense which is studied in 1317 00:54:13,130 --> 00:54:10,559 conventional engineering for a long time 1318 00:54:15,890 --> 00:54:13,140 basically it doesn't wear out it doesn't 1319 00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:15,900 require any chemicals that's the cool 1320 00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,000 part of the technology is it takes a 1321 00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:20,880 step in hey we mine a very little bit 1322 00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:24,240 from the earth and now it works forever 1323 00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:26,520 to a degree within reality of our 1324 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,480 lifetimes and gets better as it works 1325 00:54:35,450 --> 00:54:32,880 because of the energy that's present 1326 00:54:37,609 --> 00:54:35,460 that the water condenses from the 1327 00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:37,619 desires of the universe which is to 1328 00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:38,880 bring life forward 1329 00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:41,339 and recently we've gotten more into 1330 00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,319 filtration 1331 00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:45,359 and dealing with that aspect in the 1332 00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,520 highest quality we've been able to study 1333 00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:49,920 over the last you know 12 years of our 1334 00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:52,559 conception and you know new products all 1335 00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:54,180 the time and kind of raising the bar a 1336 00:54:58,910 --> 00:54:56,220 little bit right now so principally 1337 00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,920 we're de-stressing the water and 1338 00:55:04,190 --> 00:55:01,440 bringing in life force energy and 1339 00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:04,200 instead of teaching like complex Nuclear 1340 00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,180 Physics which isn't any more complex 1341 00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:08,880 than music itself 1342 00:55:13,790 --> 00:55:11,400 now it's kind of like simple life force 1343 00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:13,800 energies of here's what promotes growth 1344 00:55:18,290 --> 00:55:16,260 and here's what promotes degeneration 1345 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,300 and both of them are necessary for the 1346 00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:20,400 life cycle to go on it's as simple as 1347 00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,160 everything you can see or perceive in 1348 00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:25,440 this physical world breathes in and out 1349 00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:28,559 and the out is food for another and the 1350 00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:30,420 Inn is food from another 1351 00:55:34,849 --> 00:55:32,480 and so now we become you know 1352 00:55:37,790 --> 00:55:34,859 fundamental with our relationship as 1353 00:55:39,890 --> 00:55:37,800 beings and as human beings what we 1354 00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,900 physically do in contribution for the 1355 00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:42,480 whole globe you know always inherently 1356 00:55:49,490 --> 00:55:46,200 yeah I think that's a great summary and 1357 00:55:52,730 --> 00:55:49,500 when I look at the details of these 1358 00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:52,740 products and getting into the carbo Gene 1359 00:55:58,609 --> 00:55:56,280 filter I see that you use ormus which is 1360 00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:58,619 super interesting and shungite which is 1361 00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:01,920 another really interesting thing to be 1362 00:56:07,069 --> 00:56:03,660 in there you know pretty unconventional 1363 00:56:09,290 --> 00:56:07,079 from most other household filters talk 1364 00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:09,300 to us a little bit about the inclusion 1365 00:56:13,069 --> 00:56:11,339 of shung guide and ormus because ormus 1366 00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:13,079 that story is quite interesting we've 1367 00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:15,000 talked about it before it's another one 1368 00:56:19,730 --> 00:56:18,119 of those things where people are still a 1369 00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:19,740 little fuzzy on what it really is 1370 00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:22,440 monoatomic gold sure we can say that but 1371 00:56:27,770 --> 00:56:25,380 you know that doesn't really explain it 1372 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:27,780 in layman's terms but those are just 1373 00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:29,760 interesting inclusions 1374 00:56:34,849 --> 00:56:33,300 oh I I agree and I don't think we're you 1375 00:56:37,370 --> 00:56:34,859 know at a point 1376 00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:37,380 of like a knowing where we can say this 1377 00:56:42,530 --> 00:56:39,300 is what it is hands down I think it's 1378 00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:42,540 all very transitional your intro 1379 00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,900 pointed out those concepts of you know 1380 00:56:50,349 --> 00:56:47,760 how like shouldn't we be asking the 1381 00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:50,359 question before we just say okay ormus 1382 00:56:55,069 --> 00:56:53,220 and so I'm coming I'll give you where 1383 00:56:58,430 --> 00:56:55,079 I'm coming from right I'm coming from an 1384 00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:58,440 atomic not a chemical or electronean 1385 00:57:03,410 --> 00:57:01,200 model right and I want to know what the 1386 00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:03,420 electron is and nobody is doing a very 1387 00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:05,460 good job explaining it in my career 1388 00:57:08,809 --> 00:57:07,260 right chemists don't explain it very 1389 00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:08,819 well when I ask Nick can answer the 1390 00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:10,920 question the atomic guys are like who 1391 00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,140 cares the atoms the core of it the 1392 00:57:18,049 --> 00:57:15,119 electrons have to follow along with what 1393 00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:18,059 the core does and I'm like ah okay so 1394 00:57:21,710 --> 00:57:19,440 you're saying that Adam is a 1395 00:57:25,130 --> 00:57:21,720 foundational piece not the electron 1396 00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:25,140 right and this you know relates to you 1397 00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,880 know where we head with oremus where we 1398 00:57:31,370 --> 00:57:29,280 head with the shungite and so this is 1399 00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:31,380 part of what I'm teaching people whether 1400 00:57:35,809 --> 00:57:33,720 you're a chemist whether you're a pH I 1401 00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:35,819 don't care what your title is like I 1402 00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:37,740 have real world experience with this 1403 00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:40,380 stuff and I know how to get the outcome 1404 00:57:46,730 --> 00:57:44,280 repeatedly so you know Hudson was the 1405 00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,740 guy who was farming you know I have a 1406 00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:48,720 great interest in soil in the electrical 1407 00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:52,079 nature and so my dad was a chemist and I 1408 00:57:57,470 --> 00:57:55,020 leaned towards being an atomist and 1409 00:57:59,690 --> 00:57:57,480 neither of us thought there was a lot of 1410 00:58:01,790 --> 00:57:59,700 deep truth in the way it was told to 1411 00:58:03,890 --> 00:58:01,800 either side of that and then you have 1412 00:58:06,170 --> 00:58:03,900 the point in between the two of like how 1413 00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:06,180 matter forms like you know more like 1414 00:58:10,910 --> 00:58:08,040 John Keeley and Walter Russell and 1415 00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:10,920 Victor shawberger and Tesla and on and 1416 00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,420 on and on those are some of the famous 1417 00:58:17,870 --> 00:58:14,640 ones but there's more you know who 1418 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,880 contributed greatly steinmed well he hit 1419 00:58:22,130 --> 00:58:20,400 it in a mathematical equation what is an 1420 00:58:24,770 --> 00:58:22,140 imaginary number where did it come from 1421 00:58:26,809 --> 00:58:24,780 these are all questions right people are 1422 00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:26,819 taught math what's an imaginary number 1423 00:58:32,690 --> 00:58:29,339 math teacher doesn't know it's a 1424 00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:32,700 necessary part to explain energies that 1425 00:58:37,549 --> 00:58:34,980 weren't quantifiable that came into the 1426 00:58:39,230 --> 00:58:37,559 system and left the system so we created 1427 00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,240 another dimension and we called it 1428 00:58:45,289 --> 00:58:42,240 negative J and you know we put some 1429 00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:45,299 inverse functions on it real simple flip 1430 00:58:48,589 --> 00:58:46,799 it over and run it backwards and see 1431 00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:48,599 what it does is it symmetrical or not 1432 00:58:55,309 --> 00:58:52,140 you know and so now this opens up the 1433 00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:55,319 you know entire door to like you said do 1434 00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,440 we have an understanding of what about 1435 00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:00,559 centrifugal forces and what about 1436 00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:03,540 centripetal forces and what if both of 1437 00:59:07,130 --> 00:59:05,220 them were always going on at the same 1438 00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:07,140 time and then you get the toroid now 1439 00:59:11,210 --> 00:59:09,720 then you get Vortex based mathematics 1440 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,220 and Marco Road and then you find out 1441 00:59:15,950 --> 00:59:13,920 Marco rodent in discover Vortex based 1442 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:15,960 mathematics it was talked about 200 1443 00:59:20,030 --> 00:59:17,880 years ago and all sorts of mystery 1444 00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:20,040 schools in different ways they just 1445 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,680 didn't publish it to as much people so 1446 00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:24,720 you see the same story over and over 1447 00:59:28,569 --> 00:59:25,619 again 1448 00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,579 I'm not a big like institutionalized 1449 00:59:33,170 --> 00:59:31,440 religious person in any way I I'm 1450 00:59:34,910 --> 00:59:33,180 educated on many different religious 1451 00:59:36,589 --> 00:59:34,920 Fashions but that's not what I'm 1452 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,599 interested in I'm not interested in 1453 00:59:41,390 --> 00:59:39,119 subscribing to these institutions I'm 1454 00:59:43,490 --> 00:59:41,400 interested in where they provide Harmony 1455 00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:43,500 for each other meaning I'm interested 1456 00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,319 how do we put this together not take it 1457 00:59:50,089 --> 00:59:48,240 apart so we can claim ownership of a 1458 00:59:51,170 --> 00:59:50,099 piece and rename it again and confuse 1459 00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:51,180 everybody 1460 00:59:56,990 --> 00:59:54,240 right so it's the confusion of what this 1461 00:59:59,089 --> 00:59:57,000 stuff is so RMS implies something that's 1462 01:00:02,150 --> 00:59:59,099 better for something but if you use it 1463 01:00:03,710 --> 01:00:02,160 too much too much will cause imbalance 1464 01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:03,720 and now you'll start to stress the 1465 01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:05,400 system so 1466 01:00:09,530 --> 01:00:07,980 is it gold or is it the principle of 1467 01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:09,540 being stable 1468 01:00:15,530 --> 01:00:12,240 in a different spin state in other words 1469 01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,540 a different chord a different set of 1470 01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:17,280 frequencies because nobody's ever 1471 01:00:22,730 --> 01:00:19,500 isolated a single frequency in any 1472 01:00:25,670 --> 01:00:22,740 analysis anywhere at any time nobody's 1473 01:00:28,450 --> 01:00:25,680 ever proved absolute zero you know Tesla 1474 01:00:31,789 --> 01:00:28,460 was really interested in Crooks research 1475 01:00:34,010 --> 01:00:31,799 endures research on trying to stop 1476 01:00:36,530 --> 01:00:34,020 motion within the universe observably 1477 01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:36,540 and when they were exhausted they came 1478 01:00:40,730 --> 01:00:38,760 out and they said forever and all is 1479 01:00:44,089 --> 01:00:40,740 alive and in motion 1480 01:00:47,089 --> 01:00:44,099 this idea of controlling 1481 01:00:49,670 --> 01:00:47,099 fundamental and rudimentary energies of 1482 01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:49,680 the universe is ridiculous and why would 1483 01:00:53,569 --> 01:00:51,839 we want to stop life anyways and so they 1484 01:00:55,549 --> 01:00:53,579 all kind of went on to now let's start 1485 01:00:58,010 --> 01:00:55,559 doing things more efficiently 1486 01:01:00,589 --> 01:00:58,020 and that's what the technology embodies 1487 01:01:02,750 --> 01:01:00,599 and as far as the residence goes and as 1488 01:01:05,210 --> 01:01:02,760 far as you go we provide that across the 1489 01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:05,220 board and it's simply putting more 1490 01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:07,920 constructive free to make decisions 1491 01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:10,319 water in your body has nothing to do 1492 01:01:15,170 --> 01:01:13,200 with the atom or the you know battery 1493 01:01:17,690 --> 01:01:15,180 energy of the world those are like side 1494 01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:17,700 consequences those are like yeah of 1495 01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,079 course you would get a bigger battery 1496 01:01:23,210 --> 01:01:21,359 with it of course you'd get more 1497 01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:23,220 reliability of course you would get that 1498 01:01:27,710 --> 01:01:26,220 because it's a better whole unit like we 1499 01:01:30,530 --> 01:01:27,720 have a better race car we have a better 1500 01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:30,540 submarine we have a better airplane like 1501 01:01:34,849 --> 01:01:33,180 the whole thing is better and often 1502 01:01:37,069 --> 01:01:34,859 people want to know what's better about 1503 01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:37,079 the water and it's like to your senses 1504 01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:39,180 you know it's softer to your conscious 1505 01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:42,960 senses to your subconscious senses 1506 01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:45,119 it's balancing things that you don't 1507 01:01:49,130 --> 01:01:47,400 even know about and you can trust that 1508 01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:49,140 there's plenty of evidence not everyone 1509 01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:51,359 can understand it and it's that much 1510 01:01:55,250 --> 01:01:53,220 harder to present 1511 01:01:57,170 --> 01:01:55,260 to people who are programmed in a 1512 01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:57,180 certain direction of taking things apart 1513 01:02:01,670 --> 01:01:59,880 to take ownership which is largely what 1514 01:02:03,170 --> 01:02:01,680 school teaches us more or less 1515 01:02:04,849 --> 01:02:03,180 Underneath It All in the black magic 1516 01:02:07,150 --> 01:02:04,859 sense 1517 01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:07,160 yes and all that black magic you know 1518 01:02:13,370 --> 01:02:11,099 the media keeping us in a stressful fear 1519 01:02:15,770 --> 01:02:13,380 state it seems like that's a frequency 1520 01:02:18,410 --> 01:02:15,780 that is held in the water in our bodies 1521 01:02:21,049 --> 01:02:18,420 potentially it's definitely affecting a 1522 01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:21,059 ton of people and I've heard you refer 1523 01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:23,520 to your products as kind of like living 1524 01:02:28,970 --> 01:02:26,400 organ accumulators which is a 1525 01:02:31,490 --> 01:02:28,980 description that I appreciate I was a 1526 01:02:34,970 --> 01:02:31,500 big fan of some of uh The Wilhelm Reich 1527 01:02:39,049 --> 01:02:34,980 material and I guess it's just curious 1528 01:02:40,609 --> 01:02:39,059 to me so if we're looking at water and I 1529 01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:40,619 had an experience similar to yours and 1530 01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:43,920 Mount Shasta where uh the Water they say 1531 01:02:49,069 --> 01:02:46,799 takes 50 years to really come from the 1532 01:02:51,890 --> 01:02:49,079 snow at the top to the bottom pretty 1533 01:02:53,569 --> 01:02:51,900 insane it's a statistic or a fact that 1534 01:02:55,250 --> 01:02:53,579 has stuck with me because I'm like this 1535 01:02:57,650 --> 01:02:55,260 water has been traveling longer than 1536 01:03:01,849 --> 01:02:57,660 I've been alive that seems so weird but 1537 01:03:03,950 --> 01:03:01,859 it was it really was great water uh me 1538 01:03:06,430 --> 01:03:03,960 and my wife felt like as we continued on 1539 01:03:10,250 --> 01:03:06,440 our road trip it stayed cold in the jar 1540 01:03:13,370 --> 01:03:10,260 longer just a weird observation maybe it 1541 01:03:16,010 --> 01:03:13,380 was a placebo effect kind of thing but I 1542 01:03:18,650 --> 01:03:16,020 can understand how water traveling from 1543 01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:18,660 the top of Mount Shasta to the bottom is 1544 01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:21,119 filtered to such an insane degree and 1545 01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,160 kept at the right temperature and it 1546 01:03:28,370 --> 01:03:25,680 goes to this process and it comes out as 1547 01:03:30,349 --> 01:03:28,380 good as water could be potentially 1548 01:03:33,890 --> 01:03:30,359 that makes sense to me but it's a little 1549 01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:33,900 harder for me to wrap my mind around how 1550 01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:38,030 trash City Water full of all this 1551 01:03:43,370 --> 01:03:40,609 comes to our house and you've got these 1552 01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:43,380 products that are shorter than me I mean 1553 01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:46,200 they're a couple of feet and they have 1554 01:03:49,690 --> 01:03:48,240 this stuff inside of them it's harder 1555 01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:49,700 for me to understand 1556 01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:53,640 how that corrects the water with such a 1557 01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:56,040 a narrow 1558 01:04:04,430 --> 01:04:00,720 mean I can't see a cross section inside 1559 01:04:05,809 --> 01:04:04,440 of it I know you're vortexing it but you 1560 01:04:08,210 --> 01:04:05,819 know what I'm getting at it's like the 1561 01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:08,220 water is trash coming from the city and 1562 01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:09,599 then it comes into our house and then 1563 01:04:13,970 --> 01:04:11,760 Boop it goes through this two foot thing 1564 01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:13,980 that you've developed and now it's back 1565 01:04:19,970 --> 01:04:17,220 to Quality water help me out there 1566 01:04:22,130 --> 01:04:19,980 yeah and it is the amazing part of it 1567 01:04:24,109 --> 01:04:22,140 where you get to 1568 01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:24,119 kind of going back to the unified model 1569 01:04:30,049 --> 01:04:26,640 this time cannot be a dictator of things 1570 01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:30,059 so that's like a program like it takes x 1571 01:04:34,549 --> 01:04:32,400 amount of time to achieve things okay 1572 01:04:37,370 --> 01:04:34,559 whatever you say that limitation is then 1573 01:04:40,849 --> 01:04:37,380 that's likely to be the Manifest 1574 01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:40,859 the disclaimer is your tap water going 1575 01:04:45,770 --> 01:04:44,160 through our device won't be as good as 1576 01:04:48,230 --> 01:04:45,780 the Shasta water 1577 01:04:49,970 --> 01:04:48,240 and it's not because it takes 50 years 1578 01:04:53,450 --> 01:04:49,980 for the water to go through the process 1579 01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:53,460 at all it has to do with the mass 1580 01:04:58,130 --> 01:04:56,099 of the energy of the Earth at that place 1581 01:05:00,890 --> 01:04:58,140 that's always affecting the water which 1582 01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:00,900 is instantaneous devoid of time so in 1583 01:05:05,630 --> 01:05:03,180 other words we could emulate the process 1584 01:05:08,089 --> 01:05:05,640 of taking 50 years to go down the side 1585 01:05:10,730 --> 01:05:08,099 of the mountain to get to a drinking 1586 01:05:13,789 --> 01:05:10,740 status and we could accelerate that and 1587 01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:13,799 get damn close from the electrodynamic 1588 01:05:18,170 --> 01:05:16,380 equation the energy balance of the that 1589 01:05:21,049 --> 01:05:18,180 whole equation and make that water 1590 01:05:24,349 --> 01:05:21,059 contain just as much power what we 1591 01:05:26,990 --> 01:05:24,359 cannot replicate is the constant 1592 01:05:30,349 --> 01:05:27,000 evolution of the water 1593 01:05:32,270 --> 01:05:30,359 being from that spot on the earth that 1594 01:05:35,690 --> 01:05:32,280 is the different equation we can't 1595 01:05:38,510 --> 01:05:35,700 emulate but that builds up over time so 1596 01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:38,520 if you look at having units in houses 1597 01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,700 and in multiple houses or you talked 1598 01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:43,440 about earlier like how would you deliver 1599 01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:47,160 the water to the mid-sized City well if 1600 01:05:51,829 --> 01:05:49,380 we built our devices we'd have to mine 1601 01:05:53,770 --> 01:05:51,839 too much shungite we'd have to do all 1602 01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:53,780 this stuff right well simply in the city 1603 01:05:59,150 --> 01:05:56,880 every section of pipe you know could 1604 01:06:01,069 --> 01:05:59,160 have a section that induces left Spin 1605 01:06:03,170 --> 01:06:01,079 and right spin energy over and over 1606 01:06:05,030 --> 01:06:03,180 again you could create beats you could 1607 01:06:06,829 --> 01:06:05,040 create patterns like two for one like 1608 01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:06,839 two to the left one to the right that's 1609 01:06:10,609 --> 01:06:08,760 different that makes a different charge 1610 01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:10,619 on the water it's a different beat a 1611 01:06:15,770 --> 01:06:12,000 different pattern 1612 01:06:19,010 --> 01:06:15,780 does it make a drastic difference no 1613 01:06:20,809 --> 01:06:19,020 I like Mount Shasta water 1614 01:06:23,030 --> 01:06:20,819 one of my favorites as far as the 1615 01:06:24,829 --> 01:06:23,040 bottled water categories so you know I 1616 01:06:27,170 --> 01:06:24,839 got onto that right quick oh bam this 1617 01:06:29,150 --> 01:06:27,180 I'm super sensitive to water so Shasta 1618 01:06:31,609 --> 01:06:29,160 water is nice it's good sit on a water 1619 01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:31,619 that's nice good you know couple others 1620 01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:33,660 right they still have properties in them 1621 01:06:37,789 --> 01:06:35,760 but the longer they sit on the Shelf in 1622 01:06:40,430 --> 01:06:37,799 that plastic bottle the more they're 1623 01:06:43,069 --> 01:06:40,440 exposed the direct sunlight for too long 1624 01:06:45,829 --> 01:06:43,079 the more they're exposed to Wi-Fi for 1625 01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:45,839 too long water's reading all that and 1626 01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:48,960 adjusting itself to adapt itself and 1627 01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:51,599 adapt the Wi-Fi believe it or not 1628 01:06:56,569 --> 01:06:55,200 it doesn't go oh this is a human being I 1629 01:06:59,510 --> 01:06:56,579 care about that it doesn't care about 1630 01:07:01,970 --> 01:06:59,520 the difference it sees all it's so 1631 01:07:03,890 --> 01:07:01,980 foundational that it sees every atom as 1632 01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:03,900 a living being and that's what it's 1633 01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,520 adjusting with if you get into the 1634 01:07:10,130 --> 01:07:07,200 deeper layers 1635 01:07:13,130 --> 01:07:10,140 so these atoms like ormus like Hudson 1636 01:07:15,770 --> 01:07:13,140 found out gold isn't gold 1637 01:07:17,089 --> 01:07:15,780 gold has the DNA of a vibration in it 1638 01:07:19,730 --> 01:07:17,099 that you could tell where it came from 1639 01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:19,740 on the Earth shungite is from the North 1640 01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:22,319 Pole the North Pole energy is subtly 1641 01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:24,240 different than the South Pole energy but 1642 01:07:29,529 --> 01:07:25,920 it's very different when you're looking 1643 01:07:31,390 --> 01:07:29,539 on that subtle line so these substances 1644 01:07:35,089 --> 01:07:31,400 tend to 1645 01:07:37,549 --> 01:07:35,099 cooperate with everybody's story and 1646 01:07:39,470 --> 01:07:37,559 what I found funny in my whole journey 1647 01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:39,480 with this is trying to answer the same 1648 01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:41,579 questions when I came into it that 1649 01:07:45,650 --> 01:07:44,280 you're asking you know and Schultz was 1650 01:07:48,170 --> 01:07:45,660 one of them that showed look there's 1651 01:07:50,930 --> 01:07:48,180 like an instantaneous change when you 1652 01:07:54,349 --> 01:07:50,940 trigger so there's a trigger an Impulse 1653 01:07:57,710 --> 01:07:54,359 that sends water into the right mode now 1654 01:07:59,089 --> 01:07:57,720 it's in a mode okay it's the same exact 1655 01:08:01,130 --> 01:07:59,099 function 1656 01:08:02,710 --> 01:08:01,140 this would be better for laymen for 1657 01:08:06,589 --> 01:08:02,720 people who are into health and healing 1658 01:08:08,510 --> 01:08:06,599 of autoimmune versus regular immune and 1659 01:08:11,329 --> 01:08:08,520 parasympathetic versus sympathetic 1660 01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,339 nervous system the water has that exact 1661 01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:13,200 same property within it from an 1662 01:08:16,249 --> 01:08:15,240 electrodynamic standpoint 1663 01:08:18,289 --> 01:08:16,259 hmm 1664 01:08:21,229 --> 01:08:18,299 so where may it be coming from in the 1665 01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,239 human body is autoimmune is a stuck 1666 01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,279 memory pattern in the blood which is due 1667 01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:25,440 to a behavior put on the water for too 1668 01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,560 long in my opinion and we talked about a 1669 01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:30,719 lot of high level stuff 1670 01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:33,359 just to simplify as we're wrapping up 1671 01:08:38,809 --> 01:08:35,819 what do you consider the most important 1672 01:08:40,789 --> 01:08:38,819 daily rituals to stay in health or to 1673 01:08:43,130 --> 01:08:40,799 stay in harmony obviously drinking 1674 01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:43,140 living water is there more to say 1675 01:08:48,410 --> 01:08:45,299 I would say building the relationship 1676 01:08:50,570 --> 01:08:48,420 with water however you see fit obviously 1677 01:08:52,729 --> 01:08:50,580 other people have ideas 1678 01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:52,739 but you can do whatever you want and so 1679 01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:55,319 not just like starting the day with 1680 01:09:01,309 --> 01:08:58,980 living water but putting a a 1681 01:09:03,950 --> 01:09:01,319 foundational process underneath what 1682 01:09:06,349 --> 01:09:03,960 that first morning water is or how I 1683 01:09:08,450 --> 01:09:06,359 might get it it could be like walking on 1684 01:09:10,669 --> 01:09:08,460 the dude just before the sun rises up 1685 01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:10,679 until the sun rises and a little bit to 1686 01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,199 the sunrise getting water through your 1687 01:09:17,150 --> 01:09:15,359 feet bottoms that's very special water 1688 01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:17,160 that just went through a pole change 1689 01:09:22,849 --> 01:09:20,699 right through the sidereal time and that 1690 01:09:25,130 --> 01:09:22,859 might be your ritual or you might have a 1691 01:09:27,650 --> 01:09:25,140 lot of rituals to start the day but what 1692 01:09:30,249 --> 01:09:27,660 you're doing is building a deeper 1693 01:09:33,950 --> 01:09:30,259 relationship using one of your physical 1694 01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:33,960 necessary and etherical necessary Master 1695 01:09:38,749 --> 01:09:36,600 elements really to connect to the earth 1696 01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:38,759 and the female energies or the mother 1697 01:09:43,729 --> 01:09:41,580 energies and that connects to the rest 1698 01:09:46,930 --> 01:09:43,739 of the universe as you go so water's 1699 01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:46,940 just like this necessary instrumental 1700 01:09:50,809 --> 01:09:49,679 fundamental thing for most people there 1701 01:09:52,610 --> 01:09:50,819 are exceptions 1702 01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:52,620 that can do this 1703 01:09:59,090 --> 01:09:56,400 provide this transition for you or uh 1704 01:10:00,770 --> 01:09:59,100 Evolution that's more of a leap it 1705 01:10:03,530 --> 01:10:00,780 happens gradual but it's more of a leap 1706 01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:03,540 and from there I think there's a a more 1707 01:10:08,090 --> 01:10:06,719 subconscious guidance that you get uh 1708 01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:08,100 for the people that are called to work 1709 01:10:12,350 --> 01:10:10,080 with water this isn't for every human 1710 01:10:14,510 --> 01:10:12,360 being I fully admit you know for some 1711 01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:14,520 people water's a chemical and that's 1712 01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:16,260 what it always be and that's not going 1713 01:10:20,570 --> 01:10:18,660 to inhibit their experience as a human 1714 01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:20,580 being through Earth in my opinion that's 1715 01:10:25,130 --> 01:10:22,980 what their choices or their being 1716 01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:25,140 this is kind of for people who go yeah 1717 01:10:29,090 --> 01:10:27,120 water's I get it that's my master 1718 01:10:30,830 --> 01:10:29,100 element if I had to make a relationship 1719 01:10:32,689 --> 01:10:30,840 with one element I guess I would choose 1720 01:10:34,850 --> 01:10:32,699 water because I'm a big water sack and 1721 01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:34,860 my brain's mostly water and everything 1722 01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,560 else and maybe this water's just kind of 1723 01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:39,600 like a dense ether and it's really good 1724 01:10:44,570 --> 01:10:42,600 connection to the Divine to whatever we 1725 01:10:46,729 --> 01:10:44,580 call that and we can make up our own 1726 01:10:49,310 --> 01:10:46,739 story on that canvas and we don't have 1727 01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:49,320 to become programmed or institutes so 1728 01:10:51,890 --> 01:10:50,820 there's like a freedom in it in my 1729 01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:51,900 opinion 1730 01:10:57,229 --> 01:10:54,480 and Alchemy like study Alchemy and 1731 01:10:59,090 --> 01:10:57,239 realize like the reason why Alchemy was 1732 01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,100 probably successful is because they 1733 01:11:05,390 --> 01:11:02,400 created rituals in-depth understanding 1734 01:11:08,810 --> 01:11:05,400 of copying nature right burning and 1735 01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:08,820 exalting and recondensing and if you do 1736 01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:12,000 that kind of thing more with water the 1737 01:11:16,970 --> 01:11:14,280 better results you get from it without a 1738 01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:16,980 shadow of a doubt and you can take a 1739 01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:19,080 scientific process and why can one human 1740 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,699 get more out of it than another it's 1741 01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:22,560 like why can One race car driver make 1742 01:11:26,450 --> 01:11:24,360 that car go faster than the other even 1743 01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,460 though it's the same race car right it's 1744 01:11:31,729 --> 01:11:28,320 your sensing it's your desire it's 1745 01:11:34,610 --> 01:11:31,739 whatever it is for the time so 100 the 1746 01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:34,620 relationship and your limitations or 1747 01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:38,640 lack thereof is what allows water to 1748 01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:40,860 become like medicine level if that's 1749 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,440 what you want to become very healing to 1750 01:11:47,930 --> 01:11:46,080 become like the indigenous people talked 1751 01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,940 about in like Victor schauberger talked 1752 01:11:52,669 --> 01:11:49,679 about many many other people on the 1753 01:11:54,410 --> 01:11:52,679 globe it's really your relationship and 1754 01:11:56,990 --> 01:11:54,420 you don't really even have to believe 1755 01:11:59,689 --> 01:11:57,000 just be open 1756 01:12:01,790 --> 01:11:59,699 that water is a magical substance that 1757 01:12:03,649 --> 01:12:01,800 can do things that we can't explain and 1758 01:12:06,590 --> 01:12:03,659 it's denser than most of the other ones 1759 01:12:08,990 --> 01:12:06,600 as far as immediate results go and it 1760 01:12:11,689 --> 01:12:09,000 also performs on the scientific line 1761 01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:11,699 meaning it does do enough repetition to 1762 01:12:16,130 --> 01:12:14,159 say there's valid arguments in this for 1763 01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,140 every positive and negative effect we 1764 01:12:21,709 --> 01:12:18,719 see happen on the planet right now right 1765 01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:21,719 on I like it and calling it a dense 1766 01:12:25,729 --> 01:12:23,760 ether is provocative I'm definitely 1767 01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:25,739 going to remember that one and just 1768 01:12:30,350 --> 01:12:27,540 before we start wrapping up and giving 1769 01:12:32,630 --> 01:12:30,360 people the links I wanted to throw this 1770 01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:32,640 in here but I understand you've done a 1771 01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,040 couple of Ayahuasca ceremonies and I 1772 01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:36,960 have a friend who's done several as well 1773 01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:38,820 the listeners know Gordon white really 1774 01:12:43,610 --> 01:12:41,280 well but he has a lot of great material 1775 01:12:46,189 --> 01:12:43,620 across a wide range of subjects but he 1776 01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,199 likes following this water science too 1777 01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,960 and when it comes to the Ayahuasca Purge 1778 01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:51,120 it's pretty common for people to say 1779 01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,820 that it's not exactly vomit there's too 1780 01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,400 much volume there given the stripped 1781 01:13:01,130 --> 01:12:58,860 down diet you're usually on leading up 1782 01:13:02,750 --> 01:13:01,140 to the experience and Gordon has this 1783 01:13:05,810 --> 01:13:02,760 hypothesis that maybe there's a 1784 01:13:09,229 --> 01:13:05,820 relationship between the purge and the 1785 01:13:11,689 --> 01:13:09,239 gel water in our cells and that that 1786 01:13:14,510 --> 01:13:11,699 might be part of what a person is 1787 01:13:17,390 --> 01:13:14,520 spewing up it might be part of the 1788 01:13:18,590 --> 01:13:17,400 detoxification of The Purge what do you 1789 01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:18,600 think 1790 01:13:22,610 --> 01:13:21,600 I had the same experience and I was like 1791 01:13:25,070 --> 01:13:22,620 that 1792 01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:25,080 you know a poll reversed in the equation 1793 01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:26,400 like 1794 01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:31,440 is the way I would describe it condense 1795 01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:33,120 in your core 1796 01:13:39,790 --> 01:13:37,260 and I won't go into detail but it 1797 01:13:43,130 --> 01:13:39,800 doesn't seem possible what that and and 1798 01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:43,140 I wasn't a heavy purger most of the 1799 01:13:47,390 --> 01:13:44,640 people in the room because I did like a 1800 01:13:49,550 --> 01:13:47,400 35 group circle ceremony 1801 01:13:51,229 --> 01:13:49,560 and most of the people in the room like 1802 01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:51,239 I was like I don't even know how that's 1803 01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:53,760 possible I was kind of like one and done 1804 01:13:58,189 --> 01:13:56,460 and poof off into other dimensions 1805 01:14:00,890 --> 01:13:58,199 learning about how the universe works 1806 01:14:02,810 --> 01:14:00,900 again having a good old time once I got 1807 01:14:04,910 --> 01:14:02,820 through my healing and my pain side of 1808 01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:04,920 it you know which was 1809 01:14:10,250 --> 01:14:07,920 a very poignant Purge so 1810 01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,260 I believe there's a memory going away 1811 01:14:14,510 --> 01:14:12,239 with that that has to do with the more 1812 01:14:17,390 --> 01:14:14,520 hardened water which kind of would be 1813 01:14:18,950 --> 01:14:17,400 the what they try and talk about is the 1814 01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:18,960 gel water which I think is kind of 1815 01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:20,400 confusing when you look at the full 1816 01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:23,520 story of it but the more hardened like 1817 01:14:28,850 --> 01:14:27,120 hard drive memory like I believe some of 1818 01:14:30,890 --> 01:14:28,860 that is coming out 1819 01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:30,900 like same way you kind of get rid of the 1820 01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:32,880 hardness and water and erase some of its 1821 01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:33,840 memory 1822 01:14:38,810 --> 01:14:36,239 but you can never erase its identity 1823 01:14:41,149 --> 01:14:38,820 it's always going to stay the same as 1824 01:14:43,610 --> 01:14:41,159 far as that goes so 1825 01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:43,620 some truth in that and I I've looked at 1826 01:14:47,930 --> 01:14:45,480 some correlations similar I'm not 1827 01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,940 familiar with people's work enough to 1828 01:14:52,610 --> 01:14:50,159 speak on it but I made that correlation 1829 01:14:54,350 --> 01:14:52,620 with Ayahuasca and core memory and the 1830 01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:54,360 spinal column and 1831 01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:56,640 you know when the atomic Force 1832 01:15:00,649 --> 01:14:58,320 microscope discovered that water 1833 01:15:02,330 --> 01:15:00,659 actually grows itself into solid 1834 01:15:05,149 --> 01:15:02,340 material and has nothing to do with the 1835 01:15:07,490 --> 01:15:05,159 easy water explanation and that type of 1836 01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:07,500 gel water and it has nothing to do with 1837 01:15:12,649 --> 01:15:09,780 new phases because it's a mixture of 1838 01:15:14,689 --> 01:15:12,659 soft solids and liquids so you got two 1839 01:15:17,330 --> 01:15:14,699 phases going on in any living water 1840 01:15:19,370 --> 01:15:17,340 almost always and then if it's moving in 1841 01:15:21,229 --> 01:15:19,380 free you have a gaseous phase in there 1842 01:15:25,550 --> 01:15:21,239 too that strikes up known as water 1843 01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:25,560 plasma and now in carbon nanotubes 1844 01:15:31,610 --> 01:15:28,440 they're seeing water freeze under and 1845 01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:31,620 way off conditions like freezing at 1846 01:15:36,830 --> 01:15:33,719 boiling points and all sorts of 1847 01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:36,840 anomalies right so you got water that's 1848 01:15:40,430 --> 01:15:38,400 basically coming out and Breaking All 1849 01:15:42,649 --> 01:15:40,440 the laws of physics that were placed on 1850 01:15:45,169 --> 01:15:42,659 it by a limited physics 1851 01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:45,179 and you have a full open field and 1852 01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:48,239 canvas to paint and create on and use 1853 01:15:52,010 --> 01:15:49,380 water to 1854 01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:52,020 as your conductor of your own Orchestra 1855 01:15:56,090 --> 01:15:53,820 and all the parts and pieces that you 1856 01:15:58,250 --> 01:15:56,100 bring into your life that everybody 1857 01:16:00,169 --> 01:15:58,260 knows you want a higher quality life and 1858 01:16:02,270 --> 01:16:00,179 bring more joy and limit the suffering 1859 01:16:05,209 --> 01:16:02,280 but everybody knows suffering has a 1860 01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,219 purpose too right now I think the whole 1861 01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:07,199 picture and the planet is suffering too 1862 01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:10,260 much and it's been done by uh artificial 1863 01:16:14,990 --> 01:16:13,920 means that is opposing nature some 100 1864 01:16:17,630 --> 01:16:15,000 percent 1865 01:16:19,310 --> 01:16:17,640 with you on the perspective that it is 1866 01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:19,320 time and I'm just here to kind of help 1867 01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:22,500 Usher that in amen me too just trying to 1868 01:16:28,189 --> 01:16:24,300 help push that pendulum back the other 1869 01:16:30,890 --> 01:16:28,199 way yep but man I love it we covered a 1870 01:16:32,930 --> 01:16:30,900 lot of ground I really appreciate the 1871 01:16:35,330 --> 01:16:32,940 water education class we had here today 1872 01:16:38,149 --> 01:16:35,340 and on so many other things we clearly 1873 01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:38,159 got educated and I really am impressed 1874 01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:40,080 with the products you're making to 1875 01:16:44,810 --> 01:16:42,300 revitalize the water that we've been 1876 01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:44,820 mistreating for too long let the people 1877 01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:46,320 know anything else you'd like to tell 1878 01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:48,719 them before we go your links where to 1879 01:16:52,610 --> 01:16:51,000 get the products any deals or new 1880 01:16:53,450 --> 01:16:52,620 products in the works all that good 1881 01:16:56,810 --> 01:16:53,460 stuff 1882 01:16:59,510 --> 01:16:56,820 yeah so naturalaction.com 1883 01:17:02,270 --> 01:16:59,520 is our main website we also have a 1884 01:17:05,390 --> 01:17:02,280 member site that you become a member and 1885 01:17:07,250 --> 01:17:05,400 you can get access to like past webinars 1886 01:17:08,930 --> 01:17:07,260 which I do like presentations and 1887 01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:08,940 interviews 1888 01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:11,520 so some of the presentations visualize 1889 01:17:16,669 --> 01:17:13,920 and show you know a little bit more like 1890 01:17:18,530 --> 01:17:16,679 graphing data and you know things to 1891 01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:18,540 more quantify what we're talking about 1892 01:17:21,649 --> 01:17:20,159 that are harder to do words with the 1893 01:17:23,630 --> 01:17:21,659 behavior of water 1894 01:17:26,090 --> 01:17:23,640 so for those who you know want to dive 1895 01:17:29,090 --> 01:17:26,100 in a little bit deeper the member site 1896 01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:29,100 is great with you know data and other 1897 01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:30,960 papers and other people's work like 1898 01:17:37,310 --> 01:17:34,800 James de mayo and Benny Johansen and 1899 01:17:38,630 --> 01:17:37,320 Andrea Schultz's work and 1900 01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,640 you know a little bit of the broader 1901 01:17:43,070 --> 01:17:41,040 picture and then products 1902 01:17:45,590 --> 01:17:43,080 you know we pilot products for about a 1903 01:17:48,110 --> 01:17:45,600 year we basically develop with customers 1904 01:17:49,729 --> 01:17:48,120 input so we have a pretty solid idea 1905 01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:49,739 where we want to go and why and 1906 01:17:54,649 --> 01:17:52,500 scientific evidence to boot but in the 1907 01:17:56,450 --> 01:17:54,659 end we want a customer feedback that 1908 01:17:58,850 --> 01:17:56,460 says this is what it did for me this is 1909 01:18:00,590 --> 01:17:58,860 what I like so you know the new products 1910 01:18:03,229 --> 01:18:00,600 we're out with are basically what we 1911 01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:03,239 call the Magna Ray technology that came 1912 01:18:08,570 --> 01:18:06,540 about because of the grace of manta rays 1913 01:18:11,149 --> 01:18:08,580 and the fact that we're using a magnetic 1914 01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:11,159 array in a different arrangement 1915 01:18:15,830 --> 01:18:13,920 Burke the term Magna Ray which is a 1916 01:18:18,110 --> 01:18:15,840 unique geometry 1917 01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:18,120 surrounding the water of a certain type 1918 01:18:22,850 --> 01:18:19,199 of 1919 01:18:25,070 --> 01:18:22,860 magnet design and Direction Where We 1920 01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:25,080 actually try and inhibit the amount of 1921 01:18:28,910 --> 01:18:27,120 magnetic field because 1922 01:18:30,530 --> 01:18:28,920 as our webinars are talking about 1923 01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:30,540 there's other more subtle forces 1924 01:18:33,470 --> 01:18:31,980 underneath the magnet we're more 1925 01:18:36,649 --> 01:18:33,480 interested in putting those in the water 1926 01:18:39,530 --> 01:18:36,659 than we are using magnetic force in the 1927 01:18:42,350 --> 01:18:39,540 water which also has a purpose so it's 1928 01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,360 our unique way of starting the zero 1929 01:18:48,590 --> 01:18:44,880 point conversation by the use of magnets 1930 01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:48,600 to bring water up to uh you know let's 1931 01:18:53,570 --> 01:18:50,159 just say more horsepower in the Life 1932 01:18:55,850 --> 01:18:53,580 horse field and it's like terrain it's 1933 01:18:57,709 --> 01:18:55,860 going to work in your body where it is 1934 01:18:59,229 --> 01:18:57,719 needed most probably not necessarily 1935 01:19:01,790 --> 01:18:59,239 where you think it's needed most but 1936 01:19:03,709 --> 01:19:01,800 y'all all can work together better when 1937 01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:03,719 that light force is in there and that's 1938 01:19:08,030 --> 01:19:06,239 a whole history of work we're covering 1939 01:19:10,430 --> 01:19:08,040 in the webinar so we're really proud of 1940 01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:10,440 the and we offer that for the whole home 1941 01:19:15,229 --> 01:19:12,540 and the portable the Magna Ray series we 1942 01:19:17,930 --> 01:19:15,239 call it the mr24 and the carbon Gene 1943 01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:17,940 and in addition there's Atomic 1944 01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:20,400 information involved that the pure Nano 1945 01:19:25,729 --> 01:19:22,140 level particle of 1946 01:19:27,410 --> 01:19:25,739 a lot of silver some ormus gold some 1947 01:19:29,330 --> 01:19:27,420 seawater ormus 1948 01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:29,340 see in other words like a lot of trace 1949 01:19:34,610 --> 01:19:32,340 minerals rather than using them up were 1950 01:19:36,649 --> 01:19:34,620 basically transcribing the vibrations of 1951 01:19:40,310 --> 01:19:36,659 those in a different state into the 1952 01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,320 water is a little bit beyond Theory and 1953 01:19:44,810 --> 01:19:42,719 that water carries into your body 1954 01:19:46,189 --> 01:19:44,820 works from the inside out rather than 1955 01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,199 the outside in if you were doing 1956 01:19:51,229 --> 01:19:48,480 vibrational treatment from outside so it 1957 01:19:52,990 --> 01:19:51,239 has somewhat of a theoretical slash 1958 01:19:56,030 --> 01:19:53,000 model view of 1959 01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:56,040 practitioning for healing but in the 1960 01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:58,320 very subtle sense those are our two new 1961 01:20:03,709 --> 01:20:00,960 hot ones we got a lot of practical stuff 1962 01:20:05,209 --> 01:20:03,719 we're doing whole home filtration with 1963 01:20:07,729 --> 01:20:05,219 whole home 1964 01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,739 ionization or passive ionization or 1965 01:20:11,689 --> 01:20:09,360 revitalization whatever you want to call 1966 01:20:14,810 --> 01:20:11,699 it water structuring a lot of names for 1967 01:20:17,030 --> 01:20:14,820 it just overall quality deliver and uh 1968 01:20:20,350 --> 01:20:17,040 more conscious living state is probably 1969 01:20:23,090 --> 01:20:20,360 the added periphery layer of the story 1970 01:20:25,090 --> 01:20:23,100 and really high quality filters we 1971 01:20:27,290 --> 01:20:25,100 researched for a long time and 1972 01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,300 combinations to make it more practical 1973 01:20:31,250 --> 01:20:29,520 to bring the overall water quality up is 1974 01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:31,260 something that's new 1975 01:20:35,689 --> 01:20:34,320 we got a wine a tabletop wine unit we're 1976 01:20:37,790 --> 01:20:35,699 coming out with believe it or not this 1977 01:20:39,530 --> 01:20:37,800 technology like highly Alters the 1978 01:20:42,890 --> 01:20:39,540 quality of wine because it's mostly 1979 01:20:44,750 --> 01:20:42,900 water so it tends to like age or mature 1980 01:20:46,430 --> 01:20:44,760 wine instantly 1981 01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:46,440 so when people want to know how it can 1982 01:20:51,290 --> 01:20:48,420 change water so fast it's like how could 1983 01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:51,300 it age wine 80 years or 100 years 1984 01:20:55,729 --> 01:20:53,880 like right now so 1985 01:20:57,649 --> 01:20:55,739 that's a new product kind of off the 1986 01:21:00,610 --> 01:20:57,659 topic of health and more in the eyes of 1987 01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:00,620 pleasure and enjoyment and agriculture 1988 01:21:05,570 --> 01:21:03,840 and I think we have a few new things on 1989 01:21:09,169 --> 01:21:05,580 the horizon yet to come I don't want to 1990 01:21:10,970 --> 01:21:09,179 mention yet but the mr24 the carbon Gene 1991 01:21:13,010 --> 01:21:10,980 really good reviews over the last year 1992 01:21:15,050 --> 01:21:13,020 from our users and we were hoping it was 1993 01:21:17,930 --> 01:21:15,060 going to be worth the Step Up 1994 01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:17,940 and then if I had to tell anybody where 1995 01:21:21,530 --> 01:21:19,920 to start I would stay start with the 1996 01:21:23,149 --> 01:21:21,540 shower and the portable 1997 01:21:25,490 --> 01:21:23,159 and there's other companies who 1998 01:21:28,669 --> 01:21:25,500 manufacture this stuff who also achieve 1999 01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:28,679 very similar things our uniqueness is in 2000 01:21:33,050 --> 01:21:31,260 our shungite recipe in our quartz and 2001 01:21:35,930 --> 01:21:33,060 the way we manufacture it and put it 2002 01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:35,940 together our flow mechanics are somewhat 2003 01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:38,159 unique on most of our like pressure line 2004 01:21:41,770 --> 01:21:40,020 units with the exception of the 2005 01:21:45,110 --> 01:21:41,780 Portables 2006 01:21:47,450 --> 01:21:45,120 and they last for a lifetime and they 2007 01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:47,460 don't require any service and if you're 2008 01:21:51,050 --> 01:21:49,260 not spiritual they're very practical and 2009 01:21:53,810 --> 01:21:51,060 if you're not practical they can be very 2010 01:21:55,790 --> 01:21:53,820 spiritual in the progression of what you 2011 01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:55,800 know the human life experience is it's 2012 01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,520 the changes significant for I would say 2013 01:22:04,250 --> 01:22:01,440 probably 90 plus percent of the people 2014 01:22:06,350 --> 01:22:04,260 use it and I we have like a 90 day we 2015 01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,360 will not hassle you at all so if you 2016 01:22:11,570 --> 01:22:08,159 don't like it send it back if it doesn't 2017 01:22:13,490 --> 01:22:11,580 you know we don't oversell generally 2018 01:22:15,890 --> 01:22:13,500 you know some people make claims that'll 2019 01:22:17,689 --> 01:22:15,900 cure you of things I don't believe in 2020 01:22:19,729 --> 01:22:17,699 that I believe the person has to decide 2021 01:22:21,890 --> 01:22:19,739 they want to heal and has to apply the 2022 01:22:23,689 --> 01:22:21,900 full measure but if there was one thing 2023 01:22:25,490 --> 01:22:23,699 that's easy to change I would say it'd 2024 01:22:27,229 --> 01:22:25,500 be this technology and water and there's 2025 01:22:29,390 --> 01:22:27,239 a set it forget it mode and there's an 2026 01:22:31,370 --> 01:22:29,400 alchemic mode to it and you can do both 2027 01:22:34,130 --> 01:22:31,380 if you want you know it doesn't hurt it 2028 01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:34,140 synergizes helps all your absorption 2029 01:22:38,890 --> 01:22:36,900 work a little bit better so even people 2030 01:22:41,450 --> 01:22:38,900 on Pharmaceutical 2031 01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:41,460 prescriptions started getting side 2032 01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:43,440 effects that they didn't have for years 2033 01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:45,600 when they start drinking like a better 2034 01:22:48,890 --> 01:22:47,820 balanced Living Water it's not the 2035 01:22:50,630 --> 01:22:48,900 water's like I'm not going to let the 2036 01:22:51,530 --> 01:22:50,640 pharmaceutical in because it's bad the 2037 01:22:53,570 --> 01:22:51,540 water is going to make the 2038 01:22:55,490 --> 01:22:53,580 pharmaceutical as effective as it can be 2039 01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:55,500 for whatever musical recipe it is or 2040 01:22:59,390 --> 01:22:57,840 isn't and they would get side effects 2041 01:23:01,610 --> 01:22:59,400 and they would say after right after I 2042 01:23:03,229 --> 01:23:01,620 started drinking that water this started 2043 01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:03,239 happening I'd be like hey it usually 2044 01:23:07,310 --> 01:23:04,800 doesn't have a big negative unless 2045 01:23:08,689 --> 01:23:07,320 you're detoxing real hard I know I don't 2046 01:23:10,610 --> 01:23:08,699 feel like I'm detoxing because I don't 2047 01:23:13,250 --> 01:23:10,620 feel bad are you on medicine 2048 01:23:15,410 --> 01:23:13,260 prescription medicine yes 2049 01:23:17,149 --> 01:23:15,420 okay we're not giving medical advice 2050 01:23:18,189 --> 01:23:17,159 here but take less of it and see what 2051 01:23:20,689 --> 01:23:18,199 happens 2052 01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:20,699 and then people would for years people 2053 01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:23,040 would call I don't like to have this 2054 01:23:27,410 --> 01:23:25,199 conversation a lot you know in the 2055 01:23:28,910 --> 01:23:27,420 public more public eye because it's like 2056 01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:28,920 you're giving medical advice to tell 2057 01:23:34,010 --> 01:23:31,560 somebody to reduce their prescription 2058 01:23:35,570 --> 01:23:34,020 and So at their own will they reduce 2059 01:23:37,790 --> 01:23:35,580 their prescription 2060 01:23:39,649 --> 01:23:37,800 and eventually they would get off of it 2061 01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,659 and say I don't even need it anymore 2062 01:23:43,310 --> 01:23:41,760 you know doctor says that you know this 2063 01:23:44,630 --> 01:23:43,320 is better and that's better and he'd 2064 01:23:46,010 --> 01:23:44,640 still like me to do this but I'm not 2065 01:23:48,290 --> 01:23:46,020 even going to do that because I feel so 2066 01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:48,300 much better and now I'm eating better 2067 01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,760 now my whole life cascaded into the 2068 01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:52,800 changes because it gave me that 2069 01:23:57,950 --> 01:23:55,260 confidence that there is a reality to a 2070 01:24:00,350 --> 01:23:57,960 lot of these statements that people make 2071 01:24:02,450 --> 01:24:00,360 but any one thing probably no but if 2072 01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:02,460 there was one thing 2073 01:24:06,169 --> 01:24:04,560 I mean that's why I changed my career I 2074 01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:06,179 mean I was an Industrial Engineer I used 2075 01:24:10,729 --> 01:24:08,159 to develop like custom machinery for 2076 01:24:13,130 --> 01:24:10,739 Aerospace you know what I mean I was 2077 01:24:14,450 --> 01:24:13,140 like boom I'm done with that I'm moving 2078 01:24:16,130 --> 01:24:14,460 to this you know I'm getting involved 2079 01:24:18,290 --> 01:24:16,140 with agriculture I'm getting involved 2080 01:24:20,810 --> 01:24:18,300 with understanding the earth and the 2081 01:24:22,370 --> 01:24:20,820 water and you know this company just 2082 01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:22,380 kind of happened to be where it worked 2083 01:24:26,689 --> 01:24:24,719 out where okay I can you know take 2084 01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:26,699 something that had a good start and a 2085 01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:28,560 lot of harassment and 2086 01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:30,600 see if we can keep this going and build 2087 01:24:34,010 --> 01:24:32,280 on a good thing and make it better so 2088 01:24:37,010 --> 01:24:34,020 that's where we're at and working with 2089 01:24:38,810 --> 01:24:37,020 folks like yourself who obviously have a 2090 01:24:41,689 --> 01:24:38,820 very deep conscious understanding of 2091 01:24:43,790 --> 01:24:41,699 what is needed if we're truly going to 2092 01:24:46,430 --> 01:24:43,800 implement the talk about wanting to take 2093 01:24:48,350 --> 01:24:46,440 care of the planet and be green right 2094 01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,360 now it's just a bunch of fluff you know 2095 01:24:53,530 --> 01:24:51,120 just corporate dominant fluff with kind 2096 01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:53,540 of small independent movements of people 2097 01:24:57,470 --> 01:24:55,920 and that'll build some strength because 2098 01:24:59,209 --> 01:24:57,480 they're willing to implements and we can 2099 01:25:01,669 --> 01:24:59,219 all get together and Implement these 2100 01:25:04,669 --> 01:25:01,679 independent smaller movements of of 2101 01:25:06,890 --> 01:25:04,679 reconnecting you know vimhoff and you 2102 01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:06,900 know cold water therapy and breathing 2103 01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,120 and really just working in the basic 2104 01:25:14,630 --> 01:25:11,520 Primal sense you know yeah it's a 2105 01:25:16,729 --> 01:25:14,640 beautiful thing and I love your show and 2106 01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:16,739 and your willingness to ask the question 2107 01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:19,679 and go down all the roads and that's all 2108 01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:21,600 that stuff Beyond water has always been 2109 01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:23,880 what I'm you know ETS like what's up 2110 01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:25,380 with that you know what I mean like 2111 01:25:29,810 --> 01:25:28,080 let's have that conversation are we the 2112 01:25:33,169 --> 01:25:29,820 most Intel religion people in the 2113 01:25:36,290 --> 01:25:33,179 universe I hope not that's a slight to 2114 01:25:39,530 --> 01:25:36,300 the universe in my opinion yes I'm with 2115 01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:39,540 you man really good stuff and you 2116 01:25:45,050 --> 01:25:41,280 mentioned James demaio I should mention 2117 01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,060 that he did study and endorse the 2118 01:25:49,130 --> 01:25:47,520 product that he was testing and that's 2119 01:25:50,810 --> 01:25:49,140 an endorsement I would hold in high 2120 01:25:53,570 --> 01:25:50,820 regard he's been here before so the 2121 01:25:55,610 --> 01:25:53,580 audience knows he doesn't mess around so 2122 01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:55,620 if he likes the products you're putting 2123 01:26:00,590 --> 01:25:58,560 out there that is uh probably good 2124 01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:00,600 enough for a lot of people but very cool 2125 01:26:05,570 --> 01:26:03,120 yeah James is one of the guys I consider 2126 01:26:09,649 --> 01:26:05,580 to be really uh legit in his work we've 2127 01:26:12,530 --> 01:26:09,659 never met and talked at all but like a 2128 01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,540 lot of our UV spec work cooperates with 2129 01:26:16,370 --> 01:26:14,400 what he reported and you know the water 2130 01:26:18,169 --> 01:26:16,380 magazines and has had published and 2131 01:26:20,930 --> 01:26:18,179 we're working on supporting that and 2132 01:26:22,970 --> 01:26:20,940 explaining that further and I love that 2133 01:26:25,129 --> 01:26:22,980 research side you know of getting with 2134 01:26:26,930 --> 01:26:25,139 and go asking these questions and going 2135 01:26:29,870 --> 01:26:26,940 how do you know how do we explain this 2136 01:26:32,330 --> 01:26:29,880 so you know real beautiful time for me 2137 01:26:35,149 --> 01:26:32,340 and my own personal like research and 2138 01:26:36,830 --> 01:26:35,159 questions but at the same time for the 2139 01:26:38,629 --> 01:26:36,840 company and the fact that for 12 I'm 2140 01:26:40,430 --> 01:26:38,639 like man if this is around for 10 years 2141 01:26:42,530 --> 01:26:40,440 it ain't gonna go away 2142 01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:42,540 I really got to commit to this it's 2143 01:26:46,910 --> 01:26:44,639 going to stay and it's not an easy thing 2144 01:26:48,590 --> 01:26:46,920 to do you know because everybody wants a 2145 01:26:50,450 --> 01:26:48,600 push button solution and wants it for 2146 01:26:52,250 --> 01:26:50,460 everybody right now you know and it's 2147 01:26:56,090 --> 01:26:52,260 going to be a little bit of an uphill 2148 01:26:58,490 --> 01:26:56,100 hike but I'm up for it and I am very 2149 01:27:00,770 --> 01:26:58,500 thankful for platforms like this and 2150 01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:00,780 your ability to reach and educate people 2151 01:27:06,350 --> 01:27:03,600 and I hope I can contribute to adding 2152 01:27:08,090 --> 01:27:06,360 something to it and other than that I 2153 01:27:08,990 --> 01:27:08,100 really honored and grateful to be on 2154 01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:09,000 your show 2155 01:27:14,090 --> 01:27:12,480 Yes Man very much appreciated I like to 2156 01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:14,100 see people out there improving the world 2157 01:27:18,590 --> 01:27:16,199 instead of just bitching about how bad 2158 01:27:20,990 --> 01:27:18,600 it's gotten so kudos to you for doing 2159 01:27:24,250 --> 01:27:21,000 that and take care and also to you take 2160 01:27:29,810 --> 01:27:27,770 Hallelujah people how about it obviously 2161 01:27:32,270 --> 01:27:29,820 water has become one of those threads 2162 01:27:35,209 --> 01:27:32,280 that we've looked at from an esoteric 2163 01:27:36,830 --> 01:27:35,219 alternative perspective and it does seem 2164 01:27:39,530 --> 01:27:36,840 like there's a lot more to it than we 2165 01:27:42,530 --> 01:27:39,540 were ever taught and I think we know why 2166 01:27:45,410 --> 01:27:42,540 George Wiseman Gerald Pollock Dr Dana 2167 01:27:47,450 --> 01:27:45,420 Cohen Sherman engineer even Aaron and 2168 01:27:49,850 --> 01:27:47,460 Jeremiah just a couple shows back said 2169 01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:49,860 something about water being just a dense 2170 01:27:52,910 --> 01:27:50,820 ether 2171 01:27:55,370 --> 01:27:52,920 I'm pretty sure or did John say that 2172 01:27:56,930 --> 01:27:55,380 I've been recording a lot and some 2173 01:27:59,570 --> 01:27:56,940 comments have started to blend together 2174 01:28:00,649 --> 01:27:59,580 but somebody said it and it makes sense 2175 01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,659 to me 2176 01:28:04,370 --> 01:28:02,639 John did have a great analogy with 2177 01:28:06,649 --> 01:28:04,380 studying the eggshell and throwing away 2178 01:28:08,450 --> 01:28:06,659 the White and the yolk it's like science 2179 01:28:11,629 --> 01:28:08,460 has largely only studied the water 2180 01:28:12,410 --> 01:28:11,639 molecule in isolation as Gerald Pollock 2181 01:28:15,050 --> 01:28:12,420 said 2182 01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:15,060 so the communicative properties of water 2183 01:28:19,310 --> 01:28:17,580 have been completely left out I mean 2184 01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:19,320 just think about it how can you study 2185 01:28:25,370 --> 01:28:22,800 water structure with a single molecule 2186 01:28:27,590 --> 01:28:25,380 so it does seem to me that John clearly 2187 01:28:29,810 --> 01:28:27,600 studied water at a deep level and made a 2188 01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,820 lot of compelling points I'm excited to 2189 01:28:33,169 --> 01:28:31,440 see if I notice a difference in water 2190 01:28:35,330 --> 01:28:33,179 that has been revitalized with the 2191 01:28:38,090 --> 01:28:35,340 pitcher pour through device 2192 01:28:40,610 --> 01:28:38,100 I bought the expensive one because as I 2193 01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:40,620 always say subtle effects and changes 2194 01:28:45,410 --> 01:28:43,440 tend to go unrecognized by me 2195 01:28:47,450 --> 01:28:45,420 so I wanted to go with the most 2196 01:28:49,850 --> 01:28:47,460 supercharged products so I have the 2197 01:28:50,930 --> 01:28:49,860 greatest chance of seeing or tasting a 2198 01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:50,940 difference 2199 01:28:55,669 --> 01:28:53,340 so you know I'm neutral I just find 2200 01:28:57,169 --> 01:28:55,679 John's perspective and product offerings 2201 01:28:59,090 --> 01:28:57,179 intriguing 2202 01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,100 but I haven't used anything yet so I 2203 01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:01,920 can't really say one way or another 2204 01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:04,440 my product is interviews and I think in 2205 01:29:08,209 --> 01:29:06,540 that department we scored today I 2206 01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,219 thought it was pretty compelling 2207 01:29:12,410 --> 01:29:10,560 obviously I like to let people know what 2208 01:29:14,750 --> 01:29:12,420 was in the plush show and in this one we 2209 01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:14,760 talked about how cell water relates to 2210 01:29:19,310 --> 01:29:17,040 health the effects of some of his 2211 01:29:21,410 --> 01:29:19,320 products he has a pool filter that we 2212 01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:21,420 talked about where it's been reported 2213 01:29:25,370 --> 01:29:23,280 that it feels like you're floating in 2214 01:29:26,330 --> 01:29:25,380 gel and your aura can be sensed more 2215 01:29:28,430 --> 01:29:26,340 clearly 2216 01:29:31,490 --> 01:29:28,440 which led us to talk about the stories 2217 01:29:33,470 --> 01:29:31,500 of old natural healing Hot Springs 2218 01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:33,480 we also got into If ghosts and 2219 01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:35,880 paranormal experiences are the spiritual 2220 01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:37,980 memory of The Ether that is John's 2221 01:29:42,649 --> 01:29:40,440 Theory it's quite compelling he also did 2222 01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,659 some work looking into the rife 2223 01:29:47,090 --> 01:29:44,400 microscope so we talked about the 2224 01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:47,100 importance of that and pleomorphism the 2225 01:29:51,770 --> 01:29:49,199 work of Walter Russell 2226 01:29:54,169 --> 01:29:51,780 and that question of if Humanity needs 2227 01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:54,179 to be ready for this change in energy 2228 01:29:57,770 --> 01:29:55,679 systems 2229 01:29:59,930 --> 01:29:57,780 you guys know it's kind of a pet peeve 2230 01:30:02,270 --> 01:29:59,940 of mine when that response is given 2231 01:30:04,729 --> 01:30:02,280 because if the answer is well Humanity 2232 01:30:07,490 --> 01:30:04,739 has to be ready this is something we've 2233 01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,500 heard before as part of the answer as to 2234 01:30:12,290 --> 01:30:09,600 why we don't have so many things from 2235 01:30:15,530 --> 01:30:12,300 free energy systems to alien contact but 2236 01:30:18,590 --> 01:30:15,540 okay well how much of humanity has to be 2237 01:30:21,050 --> 01:30:18,600 ready is it every single person is it 51 2238 01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:21,060 percent of people like when you get into 2239 01:30:24,649 --> 01:30:23,219 what that means it seems a little hard 2240 01:30:26,990 --> 01:30:24,659 to pin down 2241 01:30:30,229 --> 01:30:27,000 but regardless we also talked about his 2242 01:30:32,570 --> 01:30:30,239 work on a free energy device using water 2243 01:30:34,850 --> 01:30:32,580 and how soon it might hit the market 2244 01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:34,860 sign up for plus if you like what I do I 2245 01:30:38,510 --> 01:30:36,719 think we've had some bangers lately and 2246 01:30:42,050 --> 01:30:38,520 you get a seven day free trial right off 2247 01:30:44,330 --> 01:30:42,060 the bat so no risk no loss 2248 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:44,340 all reward all gain 2249 01:30:48,350 --> 01:30:46,260 and while we're doing pitches yeah John 2250 01:30:50,149 --> 01:30:48,360 offered us that coupon code and I just 2251 01:30:51,790 --> 01:30:50,159 wanted to make sure that I passed it on 2252 01:30:56,350 --> 01:30:51,800 to you 2253 01:31:01,550 --> 01:30:56,360 thc-10 for 10 off 1500 or less 2254 01:31:03,950 --> 01:31:01,560 thc-20 for 20 off 1500 or more 2255 01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:03,960 do your own research I just ask the 2256 01:31:07,310 --> 01:31:05,280 questions 2257 01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:07,320 seems cool to me though obviously or I 2258 01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:09,600 wouldn't have had them on where I live I 2259 01:31:15,950 --> 01:31:11,520 have no way to use the whole house 2260 01:31:18,590 --> 01:31:15,960 filter no garage no basement no place 2261 01:31:20,090 --> 01:31:18,600 where that could be mounted really so I 2262 01:31:23,330 --> 01:31:20,100 thought about the under the sink unit 2263 01:31:25,550 --> 01:31:23,340 but that's just one faucet so it felt 2264 01:31:28,910 --> 01:31:25,560 more logical to get the pour through 2265 01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:28,920 slash pitcher device 2266 01:31:34,430 --> 01:31:31,679 so I can test it on beer and wine and 2267 01:31:36,649 --> 01:31:34,440 coffee too like he mentioned I'll drink 2268 01:31:37,970 --> 01:31:36,659 from it for a week or so and let you 2269 01:31:40,610 --> 01:31:37,980 know what I think 2270 01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:40,620 I will add this one testimonial that I 2271 01:31:44,450 --> 01:31:42,000 thought you'd like to know about but 2272 01:31:46,910 --> 01:31:44,460 John's YouTube channel has a clip from a 2273 01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:46,920 woman named Susan Decker who owns Blue 2274 01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,719 Star Farms 2275 01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:51,120 it's a farm in the New England area I 2276 01:31:56,810 --> 01:31:53,760 think and she did an experiment where 2277 01:31:59,450 --> 01:31:56,820 she watered crops with structured water 2278 01:32:01,669 --> 01:31:59,460 units from natural Action Tech versus a 2279 01:32:03,530 --> 01:32:01,679 control group and she said the plants 2280 01:32:06,590 --> 01:32:03,540 that got structured water 2281 01:32:09,050 --> 01:32:06,600 showed a significant difference in being 2282 01:32:11,390 --> 01:32:09,060 bigger taller stronger plants and that 2283 01:32:14,450 --> 01:32:11,400 it was obvious to the naked eye 2284 01:32:16,370 --> 01:32:14,460 so someone who has a farm as their 2285 01:32:18,050 --> 01:32:16,380 business I don't think they're messing 2286 01:32:20,330 --> 01:32:18,060 around I don't think she would say she 2287 01:32:22,850 --> 01:32:20,340 got results if she hadn't 2288 01:32:24,830 --> 01:32:22,860 but get a product or not it is all food 2289 01:32:27,709 --> 01:32:24,840 for thought and this is just another 2290 01:32:28,430 --> 01:32:27,719 water episode to add to the stack I like 2291 01:32:30,890 --> 01:32:28,440 it 2292 01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:30,900 in higher side news join me and the 2293 01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:33,360 gramerica guys for a weekend at Mount 2294 01:32:38,510 --> 01:32:36,000 Shasta in February contact at 2295 01:32:40,189 --> 01:32:38,520 thecabin.com if you want to go the 2296 01:32:42,470 --> 01:32:40,199 details are all there you're looking for 2297 01:32:44,930 --> 01:32:42,480 the magic on the mountain event 2298 01:32:48,169 --> 01:32:44,940 bound to be a good time and let's look 2299 01:32:50,750 --> 01:32:48,179 at the calendar at hireside meetups.com 2300 01:32:53,270 --> 01:32:50,760 I'm putting this show out on October 5th 2301 01:32:55,550 --> 01:32:53,280 so tomorrow October 6th we got the Los 2302 01:32:57,830 --> 01:32:55,560 Angeles truthers going to Flame 2303 01:32:59,689 --> 01:32:57,840 international restaurant on Santa Monica 2304 01:33:02,390 --> 01:32:59,699 Boulevard in LA 2305 01:33:04,850 --> 01:33:02,400 still trying to work out if I can make 2306 01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:04,860 it up to that it is a bit of a trek you 2307 01:33:08,689 --> 01:33:05,520 know 2308 01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:08,699 but it's also fun to meet the people 2309 01:33:13,970 --> 01:33:11,520 anyway October 8th we got the bizarre 2310 01:33:17,930 --> 01:33:13,980 Tales podcast and THC 2311 01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,940 meet up at Old Lloyd's arms Pub in 2312 01:33:22,189 --> 01:33:19,679 Grimsley England 2313 01:33:24,590 --> 01:33:22,199 bringing the tribes together that's what 2314 01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:24,600 it's about now on October 9th we got the 2315 01:33:30,110 --> 01:33:27,120 rising conspiracy full moon Meetup 2316 01:33:32,689 --> 01:33:30,120 people near Cleveland should know that 2317 01:33:35,390 --> 01:33:32,699 they can go to the Winking Lizard in 2318 01:33:37,790 --> 01:33:35,400 Lakewood Ohio and have a good time with 2319 01:33:40,370 --> 01:33:37,800 other THC fans 2320 01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:40,380 I also see events this month in Redlands 2321 01:33:46,370 --> 01:33:43,440 California in Des Moines Iowa another 2322 01:33:49,970 --> 01:33:46,380 one in London one in New York New York 2323 01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:49,980 one in Philly it's stacking up I love it 2324 01:33:53,870 --> 01:33:51,840 it's great to see the calendar be a 2325 01:33:56,510 --> 01:33:53,880 little less bare each month 2326 01:33:58,669 --> 01:33:56,520 so good stuff Making Friends building 2327 01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,679 the network and finding people you can 2328 01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:00,719 trust to not panic the next time they 2329 01:34:05,570 --> 01:34:03,120 throw a bunch of fear porn at us 2330 01:34:07,550 --> 01:34:05,580 but that's it for me naturalaction.com 2331 01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:07,560 if you want to check out what John's got 2332 01:34:10,970 --> 01:34:09,360 to offer and if you do leave me a 2333 01:34:13,310 --> 01:34:10,980 voicemail review and we'll put them all 2334 01:34:15,830 --> 01:34:13,320 out there in the next uh joint session 2335 01:34:17,750 --> 01:34:15,840 or something but until then I'm getting 2336 01:34:20,750 --> 01:34:17,760 out of here take care of you and yours 2337 01:34:22,970 --> 01:34:20,760 I've done my part your move structured 2338 01:34:25,790 --> 01:34:22,980 water suppressors water science sensors 2339 01:34:28,729 --> 01:34:25,800 and H2O authorities who don't want us to 2340 01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:28,739 know about that sweet sweet water magic 2341 01:34:35,090 --> 01:34:31,760 your mood 2342 01:34:37,209 --> 01:34:35,100 sometimes when I get down I eat a bunch 2343 01:34:41,390 --> 01:34:37,219 of corporate junk 2344 01:34:43,970 --> 01:34:41,400 process stuff that makes you fat 2345 01:34:46,270 --> 01:34:43,980 yeah it's a weak and sickly people 2346 01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:46,280 making industry 2347 01:35:08,570 --> 01:34:48,800 don't tell me 2348 01:35:11,550 --> 01:35:08,580 [Music] 2349 01:35:19,790 --> 01:35:11,560 wrong 2350 01:35:24,890 --> 01:35:22,729 got an addiction to the digital 2351 01:35:27,950 --> 01:35:24,900 technology 2352 01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:27,960 every now and then I try to quit and 2353 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:31,679 leave it be but it's too hard to turn it 2354 01:35:54,729 --> 01:35:51,709 [Music] 2355 01:35:56,970 --> 01:35:54,739 I don't have to face it 2356 01:36:15,350 --> 01:35:56,980 that's right 2357 01:36:30,110 --> 01:36:18,960 don't tell me 2358 01:36:36,410 --> 01:36:30,120 [Music] 2359 01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:36,420 I don't have to face it that's right 2360 01:36:51,250 --> 01:36:49,129 into me try to forget and I ignore but 2361 01:36:53,580 --> 01:36:51,260 I'm just out of love 2362 01:36:54,650 --> 01:36:53,590 but I don't have to tell 2363 01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:54,660 [Applause] 2364 01:37:10,370 --> 01:36:55,440 [Music] 2365 01:37:15,410 --> 01:37:13,129 and that is another show complete 2366 01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:15,420 remember as much as you enjoyed this 2367 01:37:19,550 --> 01:37:17,760 which is just the free first hour I hope 2368 01:37:22,250 --> 01:37:19,560 you'll become a plus member to hear the 2369 01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:22,260 full two-hour interviews you also can 2370 01:37:26,750 --> 01:37:24,239 engage with other Plus members in the 2371 01:37:28,129 --> 01:37:26,760 comments and the forums and you'll find 2372 01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,139 your answer to one of the most common 2373 01:37:31,970 --> 01:37:30,239 questions I get which is where can I 2374 01:37:33,770 --> 01:37:31,980 find those cover songs that you use at 2375 01:37:36,169 --> 01:37:33,780 the end of the show well they are free 2376 01:37:38,270 --> 01:37:36,179 downloads for Plus members too and 2377 01:37:40,370 --> 01:37:38,280 without Plus members I can't hire the 2378 01:37:42,890 --> 01:37:40,380 occasional musician to bring these odd 2379 01:37:44,810 --> 01:37:42,900 cover song ideas to fruition Plus 2380 01:37:46,610 --> 01:37:44,820 members are how I'm able to do what I do 2381 01:37:49,490 --> 01:37:46,620 without ads and without the big machine 2382 01:37:51,649 --> 01:37:49,500 being on my back we can fit so much more 2383 01:37:53,450 --> 01:37:51,659 into a two-hour interview and I do my 2384 01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:53,460 best to make it worth your time and 2385 01:37:58,850 --> 01:37:56,400 money the conversation only gets deeper 2386 01:38:01,010 --> 01:37:58,860 weirder and more controversial in that 2387 01:38:03,229 --> 01:38:01,020 private hour how could it not the way 2388 01:38:05,209 --> 01:38:03,239 things are going but the best way to 2389 01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:05,219 sign up is at the higher sidechats.com 2390 01:38:10,729 --> 01:38:07,800 where new first-time subscribers always 2391 01:38:13,310 --> 01:38:10,739 get a free 7-Day trial because I'm just 2392 01:38:15,169 --> 01:38:13,320 that confident there's no PayPal on the 2393 01:38:17,330 --> 01:38:15,179 website but if you need to use PayPal 2394 01:38:20,030 --> 01:38:17,340 then sign up through patreon and you get 2395 01:38:21,890 --> 01:38:20,040 all the same episodes our website is a 2396 01:38:23,870 --> 01:38:21,900 credit or debit system but you can also 2397 01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:23,880 scope out the other options like a few 2398 01:38:29,149 --> 01:38:26,880 various cryptos cash or check mail to 2399 01:38:30,530 --> 01:38:29,159 the PO box and I'll even barter with 2400 01:38:32,689 --> 01:38:30,540 most people if you have your own 2401 01:38:35,149 --> 01:38:32,699 business and produce something nice that 2402 01:38:37,790 --> 01:38:35,159 my wife or kid or taste buds might like 2403 01:38:39,770 --> 01:38:37,800 but the architects of consensus reality 2404 01:38:41,629 --> 01:38:39,780 have made it clear that these themes and 2405 01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:41,639 topics aren't really welcome on the main 2406 01:38:46,010 --> 01:38:44,400 stage and so this is how we secure a 2407 01:38:47,930 --> 01:38:46,020 little counterculture corner for 2408 01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:47,940 ourselves and I hope you'll join plus 2409 01:38:53,510 --> 01:38:50,639 because that is the only way it works 2410 01:38:55,729 --> 01:38:53,520 besides you can cancel anytime right on 2411 01:38:57,830 --> 01:38:55,739 your profile page the most common 2412 01:39:00,410 --> 01:38:57,840 concern I hear is people just being 2413 01:39:02,510 --> 01:39:00,420 unsure if THC plus will work with their 2414 01:39:05,149 --> 01:39:02,520 podcast app and the answer is probably 2415 01:39:07,189 --> 01:39:05,159 yes but if not we have several 2416 01:39:09,169 --> 01:39:07,199 high-level app recommendations for 2417 01:39:11,870 --> 01:39:09,179 whatever phone you use and the website 2418 01:39:13,370 --> 01:39:11,880 is made for mobile too we're trained to 2419 01:39:14,990 --> 01:39:13,380 tip a waitress for bringing us a 2420 01:39:17,810 --> 01:39:15,000 sandwich but that tip doesn't give you 2421 01:39:19,729 --> 01:39:17,820 access to a second sandwich really I'm 2422 01:39:21,709 --> 01:39:19,739 not asking for any more than that and I 2423 01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:21,719 think I offer a better service come get 2424 01:39:25,790 --> 01:39:24,000 your second serving of tasty conspiracy 2425 01:39:28,430 --> 01:39:25,800 goodness in exchange for that small 2426 01:39:30,470 --> 01:39:28,440 token of your appreciation beyond that 2427 01:39:32,510 --> 01:39:30,480 let it also be known that we have grown 2428 01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,520 and survived as long as we have By Word 2429 01:39:37,250 --> 01:39:34,800 of Mouth I don't care so much about 2430 01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,260 social media likes or follows but tell 2431 01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,320 the right people about THC and not just 2432 01:39:44,330 --> 01:39:42,480 listeners but the high level figures who 2433 01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:44,340 are better suited to sit down with me 2434 01:39:48,410 --> 01:39:46,560 than most other hosts and if you can 2435 01:39:50,270 --> 01:39:48,420 help me with any of these things I can 2436 01:39:52,209 --> 01:39:50,280 work to bring you better shows which is 2437 01:39:54,530 --> 01:39:52,219 just a a win-win for both of us 2438 01:39:56,990 --> 01:39:54,540 informative entertaining and 2439 01:39:58,610 --> 01:39:57,000 action-packed it also never hurts to 2440 01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:58,620 thank a guest you liked if you have the 2441 01:40:01,970 --> 01:40:00,480 time either we want them to know people 2442 01:40:04,250 --> 01:40:01,980 are listening so they're willing to come 2443 01:40:06,410 --> 01:40:04,260 back down the road too thank you for